[Mitch Ives]

[Douglas K. Dempsey] “I have done so many tests I no longer know what I know.”

This may be the best line I’ve read in a longtime….

[James Culbertson] “I’ve found that X.264 through Episode Pro is the most true to my original intent.”

I’ve come to the same conclusion…

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

[Gary Huff] “[Mitch Ives] “Your views on Capitalism are precisely what I would expect from someone who has been through the reeducation camps we call public schools these days.”

You might want to tone down the rhetoric because it makes you look very foolish. And this is coming from someone who didn’t go through the public school system.”

Or it could be that I spent 5-1/2 years teaching in the Community College system and experienced first hand the results of our failing education system. I also spend a great deal of time talking to younger people about all manner of things. So, while I appreciate your advice, I’ll stick with my “experience based” assessment.

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

[Herb Sevush] “No, I would guess A*holes come in at around 30% of the population, give or take. What group are you talking about?”

Is there a poll for that? I’m guessing it’s gotten much higher in the last 5 years…

[Herb Sevush] “It’s not the only option, I doubt it’s the best option, but I do realize it is an option, although I personally haven’t come in contact with a single individual or company that has used it. I own a business and this is not the kind of thing that keeps me up late at night. I’m more apt to be worried about volcanos, and I live in NY. “

Really? The photographer in NM… the cake bakers in Washington (?). Seems they had little choice. Remember, nothing is a problem until it affects you… then it’s Defcon1.

[Herb Sevush] “That’s the exact sort of thinking that started the trouble in the first place. First you have to understand that both sides are feeling abused, then you have to get over it and stop trying to legislate good behavior. If it’s life and death, yes go call your congressman, if it’s flowers, work it out for yourself.”

Too late for that. It’s precisely what you’ve identified that got us here. Chicken and egg argument?

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

[Herb Sevush] “I can understand the desire to have a law that allows anyone to chose who to serve and who not to serve, who to work for and who to studiously avoid, especially in a non-public, non-essential (meaning not food, clothing, shelter, health or educational)environment. What I can’t understand is using religion as the metric to advance that basic right of self determination. Does this mean catholic florists don’t have to serve lesbians but atheist photographers have to take pictures of republicans? Either individuals have the right to work with whom they chose or they don’t, trying to wrap this issue up with religious rights IS the problem. Freedom of religion has nothing to do with this issue, and hiding behind the first amendment just exposes the bigotry behind the law.”

I’d sure like to argue with about this, but I can’t. One, it makes sense, and two, I’m not a religious person, so I wouldn’t be arguing for that. This is why in a previous I said the law should simply give me the rights that you’ve outlined. Where in the Constitution does it say that everyone has the right to force everyone to do business with them?

[Herb Sevush] “Personally I think those litigating their rights to have pictures taken of their wedding are a*holes of the first order but the stupidity of the justices in New Mexico is not provocation for the creation of even dumber laws in Arizona. Sometimes people just do crazy sh*t and you can’t run around trying to create a new law anytime someone acts like a jerk. Just spit in the food, leave the cap on the lens or send them dead flowers and leave the lawyers out of it.”

I don’t want a new law, but we keep passing more laws granting superior rights to small select groups, exposing the rest of us to liability. Can you say “tail wagging the dog”? I mean the group that’s causing all these issues are what, less than three percent of the population? As it stands, closing your business is the only option available if you find yourself exposed to opportunistic lawsuits, because in the process of trying to”do some good” we created a bigger problem. If I understand your position, we’re just supposed to let the abuse go unchecked?

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

[Andrew Kimery] “Shame you ended a decent post with an ignorant character attack. Where did I say I hated Capitalism?”

Seriously? That whole post came across as an indictment of big business. I’ve shown your post to four other people to get a second read and they all made the same comment on their own. Now, if you didn’t mean it that way, that’s another discussion.

[Andrew Kimery] “Since apparently the schooling you received didn’t teach you how to Google things here’s a link to the problem in Silicon Valley I mentioned. ;)”

Andrew, I didn’t to Google it. First, I mistakenly accepted your explanation of it. Second, I don’t live in CA, so I don’t feel the need to meddle in the internal affairs of a sovereign state. Too damn bad Arizona doesn’t get the same courtesy, isn’t it?

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

[TImothy Auld] “They are exactly the same. If a business provides a service then they may not refuse that service to anyone on what the law calls an arbitrary basis. Refusing a service to someone because one does not like or approve of how they live their lives outside the confines of your business seems to me to be the very definition of “arbitrary.””

I get that. My point is that if this were in fact the universal sentiment, then we wouldn’t be going through this would we? The point is that not everyone agrees with you or several states wouldn’t be doing this, would they? I’m trying to find some way of respecting all sides, not just the protected classes. I can see that’s a lost cause with you, so I’ll stop.

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

[TImothy Auld] “I grew up in the south and saw those signs everywhere too. We disagree strongly that they were not designed to keep out minorities. The bottom line is that business owners have a perfect right to refuse service to anyone who is unruly, violent, or otherwise disruptive to the business. But no right whatever to refuse service to someone for being black, native american, hispanic, gay, or in show business.”

It was different out here in the west, but then most things are. Those signs were never viewed in those terms here… at least not by anybody I ever knew, but then this was once the “wild west”, so signs of that nature were commonplace… just like guns.

Show business? Of course we should exclude them… 🙂

The issue is that refusing service as in handing you a hot dog through a window is not in the same category as forcing a prolonged relationship on somebody, which is what our business is. Sooner or later people are going to recognize this difference and understand that. Forcing you out on a one time date with somebody is one thing… forcing you into an arranged marriage is another. People are too caught up in their emotions to see the impracticality of this…

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

[David Roth Weiss] “I’ll bet FCP X was a very close 2nd. 🙂 Or, as we like to say in golf, “it was the best of the losers.””

In racing, second place is first loser…

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

LOL… I think you could be right…

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Mitch Ives]

[Andrew Kimery] “”The market” is a human construct cop out manipulated by those in position of power. Where was “the market” in the deep south during the Civil Rights Movement? How is “the market” fixing the still large pay gap between men and women? How can “the market” fix collusion between businesses when it’s those very businesses that make up the market? The wage tampering case in Silicon Valley right now is a perfect example. Everyone from Apple to Intel to Adobe agreed (some under duress) to not hire employees away from each other and to keep pay levels similar thus driving down and ‘normalizing’ wages across the board. “The market”, controlled by those in positions of power, actively conspired against employees.

“The market” only works under the assumption that businesses will always do their best to compete against one another for both customers and employees and that’s just not representative in reality. Capitalism is about making the most money, not building the best mouse trap, so why compete when collusion is easier and more profitable?”

Let me make sure I got your point. Our industry is made up almost entirely of small businesses, so to make your point you use giant corporations as an example? It doesn’t fit Andrew. In our industry, if you’re difficult to work with, people don’t use you. If your work is shoddy, people don’t use you. If you don’t show up late or don’t deliver on time, people don’t use you. As a result, your business suffers and eventually you either change or go out of business. The free market accomplishes all of this because they have the choice to go elsewhere. They don’t need to sue you to accomplish this.

I love how everyone wants to bring up the deep south in their example. I can tell you that out here in the west, people boycotted businesses that discriminated against minorities during that time frame you’re referencing. Businesses changed because they had to in order to survive. Voting with your feet and peer pressure can be very effective tools for change.

I won’t comment on your Silicon valley case, as I have no direct knowledge of that situation and therefore I have no opinion. Shocking I know, as most Americans can deliver an opinion on anything in the complete absence of any actual knowledge. Watching the National news coverage on this bill was a perfect example. Of all the shows I watched, not a single one had their facts straight. Every one misconstrued this bill. It was fascinating to watch these people pontificate while being wrong on every single thing they said. Wow.

Your views on Capitalism are precisely what I would expect from someone who has been through the reeducation camps we call public schools these days. If you hate it so much, why are you in business? Why not get an over-paid government job instead?

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill