[Michael Williams]

Hi Chris,

Just a couple of clarifying questions.

“I select all video and audio files in the browser and create a multicam clip, relying on audio syn from the camera mic.

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Is this using sync to angle, to specify the camera’s angle?

” For some reason I get a very slight echo from the lav mic but the other mics are ok. Now, this is the bazaar part, if I drag just the audio clips into the timeline there is NO echo”

So are there four audio files then, the audio is separated from the camera’s video?

Also, what is the audio sampling rate on the four audio sources? Are they all 48K?

[Michael Williams]

Shane,

Thanks! I’m having a lot of trouble trying to use timecode on FCPX. It seems as consumer and prosumer cams get more and more high quality, there is less and less chance to have timecode that matches on a multicam shoot, so sync is done via audio which doesn’t rely on timecode. It seems once I make a multicam clip, it’s very difficult to use timecode. Also, just in making an MC clip, I have to decide which of the many timecodes of the clips in the angles to use for the MC clip’s TC.

[Michael Williams]

Thank you Yamini. Apple support is saying not to use compound clips inside of the multicam clips. Does anyone know why?

[Michael Williams]

Hi Michael,

I’ve done what you describe on another project. It worked well as long as the editing was finished on the video.

However most of the plugins for Logic (Waves, iZotope, etc) that are great for dealing with sound problems also work as plugins on FCPX, and can be applied to individual “cuts” using the tricks discussed here with a multicam clip.

[Michael Williams]

Robin,

Thank you again! The suggestion of using sync to monitoring angle is a great one. Do we know why FCPX can sync using that feature but not using the “make multicam clip” feature?

What I’m finding myself doing is dragging all the events into the timeline, exporting the XML to Plural Eyes, syncing there, then exporting from PE as a multicam clip back to FCPX.

In the User’s group video, they mention CU’s and ISO and other insert shots without audio that must be synced. I have the same problem in the project here… two lanes of robocam footage without audio. It also appears that the robocam footage is slightly “off” somehow, because if I line up the starting point by hand, the ending point is off quite a bit (the clips are roughly 20 seconds long) Any thoughts on how to handle syncing clips that lack audio? Tips n tricks?

Michael

[Michael Williams]

Robin,

Thanks! The APple support guys refer to editing in the angle editor as “cutting”. I mean choosing which angles throughout the timeline first, which generates many small clips on the timeline. Then as suggested here, I can expand the audio of each clip and add audio angles as needed, and that works yesss!!

The only problem now is that I’m finding that FCPX didn’t successfully sync all the clips after all. When I examined one video lane and one audio lane, they were in sync, but that was hasty. Other audio weren’t in sync (although it appears all the video IS in sync)

So are there tweaks one can do when generating the multicam clip that might get FCPX to generate different sync results? I know in Plural Eyes there are settings like “Try Really Hard” and “Level AUdio” that cause different sync results. Anything in FCPX?

[Michael Williams]

Thanks TP will try that. Are we saying that each cut within the multicam clip on the timeline will be granted it’s own channel configuration then? Or will the channel configuration span all the cuts within the multicam clip? I would need the former to be able to change which mics are active on a per cut basis.

[Michael Williams]

Found this thread hoping it would address my issue, but not quite…
I have 8 audio clips that were from lav mics worn by 8 different people, recorded by separate recorders. There were 7 cameras, some moving around, others fixed in several rooms. Each camera generated a few clips, and the clips have embedded audio.

In the audio clips from the lav mics, the sound is for the person wearing that mic. Each mic made a single long clip spanning all the video clips.

In the video clips, the camera audio has whatever is in the room (fixed cams) or field of view (moving cams). I don’t want to use the camera audio much, just for a tiny bit of room ambience.

The people were moving from room to room during the video clips.

So what I need to do (I think!) is sync and then cut the sequence of video shots (preferably using the multicam angle editor if possible). Then for each cut, have only the audio from the mics of people on camera in that cut.

I’ve tried making a multicam clip using all 8 audio tracks, along with all the video clips, but after selecting the cuts, how do I go through and enable/disable the audio lanes, so we only hear people who were on camera in that cut?

Thanks!

[Michael Williams]

Since you don’t have multiple video angles, you probably don’t need a multicam clip.

Exporting to FCPX as in your case 2) should be the best option.Try lowering the embedded audio in the video clip manually. In the timeline, drag the audio line for the video clip it down to 0. Then balance the remaining audio tracks in place (since they are synced already). Finally export the project to your final destination settings, and all the audio will be embedded (ie replacing the original camera audio)

[Michael Williams]

Thanks for this thread! Now were on FCPX 10.1.4 and PE 3.5.5. Apple pro apps support is pushing multicam over the Synchronize Clips function. In our projects we have hundreds of clips to sync, and FCPX can’t do them all at once via synchronize clips. Since a multicam clip can’t be the source for another multicam clip or for the synchronize clips function, we have to build up clips then sync them together We are using PE to do the syncing function and exporting directly into FCPX as a new event and project within the event. We have nine tracks of audio for most of the clips in addition to the audio in the video