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  • Automatically syncing multiple clips and lots of audio like PluralEyes possible?

     Tangier Clarke updated 2 years ago 11 Members · 24 Posts
  • Tangier Clarke

    May 21, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    I’ve found the syncing and Multicam featues in FCP X very useful. before this was available I’d use PluralEyes with FCP 7 though in a different way.

    Using PluralEyes I could throw a lot of clips on an FCP 7 timeline (in their shoot order) and the appropriate audio from an H4N zoom recorder on on the video track. Then essentially hand that project sequence off to PluralEyes and have it “figure it out” – the syncing that is.

    With FCP X, it’s more manual; select audio and video clips I know have a relationship and tell it to sync or make multi cam.

    Is there any way in FCP X to hand off multiple clips and audio and it’ll “figure it out” in the way I described above?

    I haven’t used PluralEyes since before it was upgraded to version 2 simply because I didn’t have to any more, but I see some situations coming where I’d like to have a more automated batch syncing like it does that perhaps FCP X isn’t capable of doing (at least that I am aware of).

    Thanks folks.

    Tangier

  • James Culbertson

    May 21, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    [Tangier Clarke] “Is there any way in FCP X to hand off multiple clips and audio and it’ll “figure it out” in the way I described above?”

    Yes, it works amazingly well. The key is to make sure all clips from the same camera or audio device have the same ReelID. Then you can just select everything and do a “make multicam clip” using the default settings and it will sync up just about anything.

  • Tangier Clarke

    May 21, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    Hmmm. could you elaborate on that process a bit more please. I somewhat understand what you’re saying, but if you could explain that workflow. Are you stringing it out on a storyline first or doing selecting in the event? Are you saying that FCP X will (based on a selection of a lot of audio and video clips) will figure out which ones go together and therefore will make multiple multicam clips?

    Thanks for the response.

    Tangier

  • James Culbertson

    May 21, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    As one example, I received a two camera shoot of an hour long presentation shot with DSLRs. The main camera operator screwed up the zoom recording so we had no continuous master audio. There were 7 camera A shots and 16 camera B shots. I labeled the two cameras ReelIDs uniquely, then did a default make multicam, and the clips all synced up perfectly after about a minute using audio waveforms, and leaving temporally accurate gaps where the Camera A operator had to pause the camera (assuming no camera b overlap).

  • James Culbertson

    May 21, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    I’m rendering something in FCP7 at the moment so I can’t remember the precise terminology. But in the FCPX event you need to make sure all clips ReelID or CameraID (can’t remember the precise event column names) are labeled uniquely, like “zoom audio,” cam1, cam2, etc. Then just select all the multicam clips in the event and do a make multicam.

  • Tangier Clarke

    May 21, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    There’s something that sounds a little dangerous here. What I’m hearing is that you have to manually make sure the “reel” field is the same for all clips. Changing reel names is not something I’m sure I want to do.

    If I have an AF100 (hold two SD cards) and a GH1 as a B cam. My reels will be as such:

    shoot-camA-01
    shoot-camA-02
    Shoot-camB-01
    zoom-audio

    So if I want the clips created from these cameras (considering potential start/stops), in FCP X, I have to change the reel names before selecting all of the clips and zoom audio and choosing make multicam or sync for this to work?

    Like timecode, I treat the reel as sacred unless forced into a situation where I have to change it or for some reason it was missing on import.

    Tangier

  • Michael Garber

    May 21, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Here’s a good video for creating multiclips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDC5XR35GE

    Michael Garber
    5th Wall – a post production company
    Blog: GARBERSHOP

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  • Tangier Clarke

    May 21, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    That’s a nice solution. However it only give me one multicam clip. I’m wondering if FCP X can look at clips and generate multiple multicam clips. Thanks for that video!

    Tangier

  • Kevin Rease

    May 21, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    If your reels are named as you have them listed you don’t have to change anything. I generally use camera angles to sync my media, but that is just how I work. You should be able to leave everything else at defaul and it should all sync nicely.

  • Tangier Clarke

    May 21, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    I’ve been selecting clips based on the reel, duration, angle and creating multicams from there, but I like this method.

    I was just trying to see if FCP X could generate multiple multicam clips without a lot of setup in the way that PluralEyes can organize on a timeline several isolated synced clips. Granted, I’d then have to take those from the timeline and drag them into the browser window (making sure they stay linked) to actually work with them as clips, but just wondered how far FCP X could take it’s syncing ability before I have to tell it (by selection and adding angle names) which clips should go together; perhaps for example strictly be evaluating audio.

    It’d be nice if I said effectively (making up numbers)- OK here’s 100 video clips and the zoom audio clips that go with it, and FCP X returned 12 multicam clips in sync or even just 12 synced clips.

    Thanks everyone for all of your insight.

    Tangier

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