Michael Nichols
Forum Replies Created
-
The OMF was definitely in sync. I am pretty sure I am following the easy set up method and I still need to apply the speed change.
Either way, I am just going to start from scratch with the new mixer, so it’s all a moot point now.
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com -
Long day here too dude! Thanks for following me around this wild goose chase! I think we got the answer I was looking for, in that my mixer was working in 24fps in pro tools and not 23.98, hence my need to apply the speed mod to his stems to sync with my picture.
From the top…
I have 4 reels of Final Cut Pro Sequences (2K DPX in a 23.98 sequence). Initially, I imported the files through gluetools at 24fps, but I changed the sequence to 23.98, along with Gluetools handling of DPX frame rates.
I exported OMF files to the sound mixer and he used the settings my OMF gave him (presumably, 24fps, not 23.98 since I probably needed to do more than just change the “24” to “23.98” in my sequence settings…though I didn’t get a render bar so I assumed it worked)
He mixed and sent me back stems that weren’t syncing on 3 of the 4 reels without me applying a 100.10% speed change to the stems. What I was trying to figure out was:
A: Why did I have to apply the speed change to reels 1, 2, and 4?
B. What was different about Reel 3 that I didn’t have to apply the speed change?Now that I am going to a new mixer for sweetening, I wanted to make sure I do everything right this time!
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com -
I am re-mixing with another house. I have the old protools sessions and new OMFs that I exported from my sequence and I want to make sure I do everything correct this time.
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com -
This project is one big minefield!
As a test, I created a new project with an easy set up of 23.98 and imported and got the message saying the AAF import frame rate (24) was changed to match the sequence (2398)
I changed the easy set up to 24, saved and then quit FCP.
I restarted and re-imported same AAF and did not get the “Changed frame rate” message, but yes, the overall project length is exactly the same between the 23.98 sequence and the 24 sequence. The edits are all in the same place as well.
The project was initially 24, but I set Gluetools to read DPX files at 23.98 and re-imported everything. I created a new sequence and pasted edits in a sequence that was 23.98 and didn’t need to render anything. Perhaps this is my mistake in this situation. That’s the sequence I exported out to the sound mixer. He claims to be using the settings set forth by the OMF I sent.
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com -
I changed the easy set and restarted FCP and brought the same AAF in through Auto Duck and did not get the error. However, the 2 sequences are exactly the same length.
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com -
OK, I set my easy set up to 1080 23.98fps in FCP and used Automatic Duck Pro Import to bring the AAF file from Pro Tools back into FCP and got this message (The frame rate of the sequence (24) was changed to match the selected sequence preset (2398)
This leads me to believe that my sound guy worked at 24 and not 23.98
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com -
Oh I didn’t realize a restart was in order when you change the easy set up and then reimport.
Thanks!
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com -
Dad? Is that you?
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com -
[Dave LaRonde] “Excellent! You should then be able to get a lightning-fast answer on whether the product you need to deliver should be 1920×1080 anamorphic to be used at 2.35:1, or letterboxed to accommodate 2.35:1…. and I think you already have the answer
The only potential problem: to sit smack-dab in the middle of a 1920×1080 frame, your animation’s center point will have a half-pixel vertical value: it’s an odd number, not even. Or you have to make a choice: one pixel too high, or one pixel too low.”
Well, I am going letterboxed (matted?) because I am a little unclear on any other way. My files are native 2.39 (1868×780 DPX scans) that I have to scale up and matte into a 1920×1080 frame. Is that not the correct method for this?
Regarding your 2nd point, I am confused as to why that would pose a problem (half pixel vertical value for center point). Would that disrupt the math?
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com -
Hey Dave,
Thanks for the reply. I guess, since I am the client, I answered my own question. I built the comp in a 2.35 frame. Just wanted to make sure there was a standard set already when finishing 2.35 to tape.
Abel Cine Tech – Rental Coordinator
We now have Red and SI-2K in our Rental Fleet!
212.462.0163 • mnichols [at] abelcine [dot] com