[Michael Murphy]

Andy,

I don’t know what your budget is.

I have some CS6 Production Premium licenses that I bought for my studio that I am not using. I am off of work on disability and am not sure when I will be able to work again. I have bad disks in my neck and low back, and a torn shoulder.

I upgraded them all to CS6, but have never installed 3 of them. I have 4 licenses total, 2 Windows & 2 Mac. I am using one, I am going to sell two and sit on the other one for now. They are all retail, individual, full licenses, no bundles or anything unusual..

I am only trying to recover my investment. they are registered at Adobe – the upgrades actually came through them. You can log in and see teh registration, the serial numbers for 5.5 and 6, and the order from teh Adobe store.

I will legally transfer them to you through Adobe and guarantee that the license works. Pay, say, 50% as a deposit by PayPal, then the balance when the transfer is complete. PayPal will give you protection if there are any issues (I can assure you there won’t be.)

I need to get $1,000 back for one Mac licesnse, a bit more for the other two, plus any fees (PayPal, etc.) My eBay ID is mmurph, I have 124 positive, no negative, been registered there since 1998.

Post, PM, or email me here and we can talk. I apologize if this is not allowed here. We are going up north next week for the 4th of July, I will post them for sale here and at eBay after we get back (not in this forum of course.)

Good luck!

Michael

[Michael Murphy]

What are the rest of the specs?

RAM? Disks? RAID?

You can look at the database here to see what increases performance the most, all else being equal. That GTX 570 was a good call!

https://www.ppbm5.com

There are 900+ machines with full specs in the database. There are all PC (?) I think, but you can see relative performance for teh same processor, etc.

You might also look at the timings posted here for a test suite in conjunction with this article:

https://magazine.creativecow.net/article/promax-one-looking-at-the-hero

Run the suite on your machine and compare to the timings others have posted. I am going to install a GTX 560 with 2 GB RAM, two 2TB Seagate Barracuta in RAID, and an SSD as scratch and benchmark before and after.

Good luck!
Michael

[Michael Murphy]

The machines sound fairly comparable, depending on the CPU and the graphics card in the Mac.

You might, as Bob suggested, download each 30 day trial of CS6 and compare the performance on each machine. You will find that CS6 is much faster than CS5.5 in many ways.

If you need to upgrade, I assume that the PC will be cheaper to upgrade than the Mac. The first level of upgrade would be RAM, the second would be the graphics card, and the third would be your disk configuration. If you had to upgrade the CPU, you would probably be better off buying a new machine.

In fact that might be the best route, depending on the kind of performance you see on those two machines. You can buy a decent i7 PC with 4GB of RAM and a 500GB to 1 TB hard drive for around $500.

Add RAM to 16 GB for $80 and a NVIDIA graphics card for $120 and you would have a great editing machine. Or get those from the vendor in the base kit of course. Then if you needed faster disk performance, add a 120 GB SSD as a scratch disk for $80 – I just bought an OCZ 120GB with great specs for that price. (Watch techbargains.com for deals.)

You want an i7 if at all possible, because only the i7 has hyperthreading. You absolutely do not want an AMD.

You can look here at specs on graphics cards and relative perfoprmance. Even the cheapest CUDA enabled card will speed up processing on some tasks by a factor of 10 – 10 to 12 times as fast.

https://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

I have been editing the type of video that you are talking about quite successfully on a $350 laptop. I bought the laptop only for the web and Word, but I have been going through Adobe’s Classroom in a Book series on it with no problem. I have also edited Multi Camera, exported, etc.

It is an i3 with an integrated graphics card (no hardware acceleration), 8GB of RAM, and a 50 GB HDD. That is probably the minimum machine that I would recommend, but it performs fairly well with the 8GB of RAM. With only 4GB it would be dead in the water.

Good luck!
Michael

[Michael Murphy]

OK, got it.

You might try to use Warp Stabilizer in After Effects for comparison.

There is an option there on how many CPU’s to use, and how much RAM per CPU.

If you have a web site to post a test project for download, we could compare timing to render on different machines. That might tell you if there is a glitch in your setup?

Michael

[Michael Murphy]

Hi Dave,

This won’t help much … just FYI:

I have a Dell XPS 830 (I think – something like that.)

I have an i7-920 and 27 GB of RAM. I just ordered a GTX 560 with 2GB DDR5 that is supposed to arrive tommorrow. I have a low end GT 430 in there now.

I will install the 560 tomorrow afternoon and let you know how that goes. I know that isn’t much, as there are probably a ton of GTX 460 out there, but if mine works …

You might also look at the ppbm5.com Premiere Pro Benchmark Database. It shows more than 900 machines with benchmark timing comparisons.

While the 580, 480, 570,, and 470 cards are at the top of the pack speed wise, the 460 and 560 are pretty well represeted with decent timings.

You could e-mail them and ask if they havve heard of any issues with CS6. You might also try at Tom’s Hardware. There are a lot of high-end users that post there.

I am also running a $350 i3 laptop with 8GB of RAM, an integrated video card (no hardware acceleration), and a 500GB HDD. I can run several transitions with no problem in CS6. I was just working through the CS6 Premiere Pro Classroom in a Book and doing just that, stacking up transitions and setting longish times to test them. That is a pretty low end machine compared to yours.

Good luck! Please keep us posted. I’ll be back tomorrow after I install to let you know if everything works OK. Or desperately looking for a solution if it doesn’t! ;>)

Michael

[Michael Murphy]

I don’t have a Panasopnic. But there is a 16 page document at Adobe on workflow for Pansonic, including imports, Prelude, Premiere Pro, etc:

https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/premiere/cs6/pdfs/adobe-premiere-pro-cs6-p2.pdf

I know there are a ton of presets in Prelude for injest, log, and transcode for specific platforms.

I see this in the above linked doc as settings for Premiere Pro, I am not sure if it is exactly what you are talking about. It would seem to indicate that you use 108060i at import. I assume you wold then switch to 1080p30 at export:

AVC-Intra 1080i/p

The Presets for 1080 material are split between 1080i and 1080p. As there is no 60p or 50p recording in 1080 mode, the only 60 Hz and 50 Hz presets are for 60i and 50i.

All available frame rates for 1080i in both AVC-Intra 100 and AVC-Intra 50 are in the 1080i folder.

Choose your preset according to the bitrate and frame rate of your footage.

1. AVC-Intra 100

For 1080/60i footage, choose AVC-I 100 1080i60

For 1080/30p footage, choose AVC-I 1080p30

Good luck!
Michael

[Michael Murphy]

Hi Tony!

Sorry, lost track of this thread.

There are two posts on the Adobe forum from 6/14 saying the same thing, that warp stabilizer is using CPU only. No response yet. I don’t knwwo if one is from you?

https://forums.adobe.com/message/4493854?tstart=0

I think there was a software update to version 6.01 around taht time. Did you install the update? Just wondering whether there was a bug that was fixed?

I’m reading other things on teh Adobe forums, I’ll post if I see anything more on Warp & GPU.

Best,
Michael

But theere is also this on the Nvidia site:

Warp Stabilizer

Now integrated directly into Adobe Premiere Pro, the Warp Stabilizer allows you to fix shaky footage while Rolling Shutter Repair helps eliminate rolling shutter artifacts. NVIDIA GPUs deliver real-time previews and fast exports of this footage.

[Michael Murphy]

You said in your first post that 25% of resources were used by Adobe.

Is that the maximum, or just what it happened to be using? That is 3GB, which is about the base usage for PP.

Within Premiere Pro setup, for my installation of CS6 Production Premium, the maximum used by Adobe defaults to 60% I think. If you are running nothing else you could ramp that up to about 66%, to leave 4GB for Win 7.

Are you using the 64 bit version of Premiere Pro? If not, and the base is using 3GB, the maximum RAM that 32 bit can address is 4GB, so you only have 1GB of RAM available.

Check to be sure you are running the 64 bit software!

And you also confirmed that within Premiere Pro it says “Mercury Hardware Acceleration”?

You can test to compare. On the CS5 benchmarks from ppbm5.com, the software enabled vs. hardware enabled will take about 10x as long on some benchmark tests. You can test, clear cache, change from software to hardware, then re-test to compare.

Now you have to let us know if you figure this out, even if it is user error. You can always come back and post under a new user name. ;>) (joke)

Cheers! Good luck.

Michael

[Michael Murphy]

The GTX 550 Ti is a pretty decent card. When you are talking about comparing that to the 560 or 570, you are only talking about marginal improvements.

12GB should be sufficient for most projects.

I understand that the i5 does NOT support hyperthreading. That might be a constraint if the process you are running is CPU bound and not GPU bound.

I think you may want to check”maximum quality” to force the GPU use? I can’t quite recall. seacrh for the correct term on here. Also lots of good info on GPU comp[arisons:

https://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

Information here on memory usage. You can see how they monitor memory usage toward the bottom. You might also run these benchmarks and compare your machine to see if anything seems out of whack:

https://ppbm5.com/Background.html

https://ppbm5.com/DB-PPBM5-2.php

Good luck! I understand the frustration. Just use the energy to try to move you forward! Good luck!

Michael

[Michael Murphy]

If you just need to work and get your project done, you could probably buy a $600 desktop PC and work fine.

I have a 3 year old i7-920 with 27GB of RAM, low end GT 430 video card, 3 HDD’s that runs fine. I am in eth middle of upgrading that to a GTX 560 video card,, RAID 0 2x2TB HDD.s SSD scratch disk, etc.

I also have a $350 i3 laptop with 8GB of RAM and a single 500 GB HDD that runs CSD6 Production Premium with no problem.

I never dreamed of running CS6 on the laptop, as it was only for web/word processing/etc. But I have actually edited a few projects with no problem. Including Multi Camera, etc.

I know you want to get your machine right, and of course that is something you need to do eventually. But if your project is teh most important thing, watch techbargains.com for a good deal on an off-the-shelf i7 desktop. I added 24GB of RAM from Newegg for $180, you can get a GTX550 Ti video card for $120 or so, you should be good to go for a while.

I have never had a crash on either of my machines, evr. They are very, very rare in Win 7.

Good luck!
Michael