[Michael J c]

But they did provide a draft mode. It just doesn’t work. The other things you mentioned were not advertised to be in the later products. This one was. I bought the product and had no reason to expect that the Media100i codec was not going to work like Media100i codec.

And I appreciate your trying to help and find solutions, you are a one man tech support department for Media100 and don’t even get paid by them to do it. And like I said, your advise is typically great.

But in this instance, there were a couple of people who already posted in this topic that they used the lower resolutions and also ran into the same bad quality issues. They too need to use their old system to supplement the M100HD if they want to be able to digitize at low res. I guess I was hopeing someone might know a way to get this flaw fixed…

I’ve talked with tech support and they said they’d call me back… Haven’t heard anything still… I guess I’ll call again.

But does anyone want to take a shot at answering the question: Why is there a 5kb draft quality option in Media100HD? Could there even be a use for it? Maybe capturing 2 hours of a still fruit basket? <--- I don't know how that would even look. 🙁

[Michael J c]

Floh,[Floh] “And since storage is extremely cheap these days you could probably digitize much much more material at 40-60k for the same money you had to spend for 5k resolution some years ago. I really would suggest either getting some additional FireWire drives for storage or to digitize in Media 100 i and edit in HD.”

Floh, you usually have great advice, but the above statement is just ridiculous.

Why should the technology be going backwards? Why should the Media100HD drop working features that have already been perfected in their past products? This is a programming oversite, and one that I should not be expected to just “deal with”.

For me to get the equal quality low res footage on my M100HD system, I have to WASTE approximately 5X more hard drive space than I did on M100i.

I’ve already mentioned that I deal with high volumes of offline low res media (and I’m only getting more everyday). Are you really suggesting that instead of storing my data on just 1TB drive I should have to go get 5 1TB drives? That’s about $4K more of storage costs. (And what about backups?!?!)

What is the point of even having the low kb draft resolutions on M100HD? They are utterly worthless (as you can see in my examples). At least in the past, even 5kb could be useable at times (talking heads, footage with little motion, etc). But 5kb will never be used by anyone on MEDIA 100HD.

I would have rather they didn’t advertise that M100HD was capable of digitizing at ALL the media 100i resolutions… I would have known not to buy a system… Since I’m not using High Definition video yet, and I’m now forced to have to have 2 systems (unless I want to just do everything on the old M100i), the only benefit I’ve gotten from the M100HD is the faster computer. But that benefit is neutralized by not being able to have 2 independent stations… For me this makes the Media100HD dependent on my old Media100i. And that is not acceptable.

But this is a programming oversight by Media 100 that you are telling me to just accept the fact that it will cost me 5X more $$ for storage…. Or “pretend” that I’m living 5 years in the past when storage space was more expensive.

No way.

[Michael J c]

[Floh] “from your examples it seems like you did digitize in draft/full frame mode in Media 100 i and that this is not supported in Media 100 HD.”

Not sure I understand what you mean by this? What do you mean, “draft/full frame mode in Media 100 i”? Let me know what you get when you test it out… I’m at a loss here… (and back on the XR) 🙁

[Michael J c]

[editology] “but I hear what your saying…..upgrade with a downgrade.”
Yes, I’m not really happy with the work-around (using the old M100i to do the digitizing). I need this to be a stand alone editing and “acquiring” station.

I’m hoping they can tweak the code and either default to HDR or give us back the option to select HDR. I don’t buy that the hardware/software can’t handle matching the compression quality of the P6000 board. We are talking about extremely low data rates here. Eventually we all get jobs where we’ve got to capture a TON of footage. I’ve gotta think more will run into this issue if they keep using M100 HD.

[Michael J c]

Yeah… the clips captured on the old system play back as expected…

But that doesn’t help me retire that system (as was the purpose of my purchacing the M100HD). I agree that it is probably defaulting to the Natural setting… I just don’t know why they would choose to do that since, as you can see, that would be useable for pretty much nothing.

I’m going to have to capture on the old station, but that is not ideal. I’d like for my new Media100 HD to be able to capture at the same quality as my old one. After all, I was told I would still be getting the Media100i capture codec capability. (They just didn’t mention that it wouldn’t be fully functional).

[Michael J c]

Thanks for the quick response…

Floh… Maybe you are thinking of the “Natural” settings at the low rates? Because the HDR settings are usually much better and often useable even at 5kb. Most of the time we do use 10kb and sometimes have been forced to go up as high as 30kb on the M100i… but that is only in rare instances when we are not working with film or there happens to be a lot of crowd shots or something.

What I’m seeing on the M100HD is similar to when we digitized at 5kb and accidentally left the natural setting on. There is no HDR option on the M100HD codec controls.

Anyway… I’ll link some examples that I just quickly captured for you to see what I’m talking about. You can see that even up to 30kb, the M100HD stuff is utterly worthless. Meanwhile the M100HD even gives you something of better quality even at 5kb!

https://gandernook.com/m100test

Something with mostly close ups, we’d use 5 or 10kb and be fine with it. It is offline and it is usually just to show clients very early ideas… they get that it isn’t perfect. But if I tried to get away with the M100HD stuff, they’d think I’m crazy.

I was hoping to retire my xr system… This is our first project on the HD… It is starting to look like they have lost some capturing functionality that was very important to us. We’d have to have file sizes 5X or more what we are used to… And with the volume of material, that would be a bad thing for us in the long run.

Thanks for any thoughts you might have on this.

-Mike

[Michael J c]

I’ve noticed that if I drag any of the Graffiti windows to my second monitor they will refresh and appear correctly…

This is the case no matter which screen I launch Graffiti on. Obvioulsy my graphics card and Graffiti are not working well together… but Boris FX works perfectly fine…

What can I do?

[Michael J c]

Hmm.. another font issue?

That was a problem on my M100i (and you solved it for me)… I’m currently using the exact font set from there.

I’ll trouble shoot it. But do you think a font might not give the m100i issues, but still give the m100hd problems?

Thanks.

[Michael J c]

IF they are really releasing Media 100 sw for $1000, they are shooting themselves in the foot big time.

That is way over-priced (imo).. Way, way over priced.

This would make it impossible for anyone to justify getting M100sw over FCP. Same price for software with less features, less expandability and less integrated products? That’s gotta be a mistake.

I found it pretty hard to justify buying a Media 100 HD… I only did because I have so many legacy projects that need continuous updating.

The M100 editing interface is a great and perfectly simplistic design… I do like it… The only thing they’d be doing by charging that much for a SOFTWARE ONLY version (that will never be able to import anything but FW and HDV) would be sticking it to loyal customers who have stuck with (or been stuck with) Media 100… The aren’t going to pick up any *new* sales with pricing like that!!

C’mon now… They’ve gotten their original R&D $$ back from the M100 editing interface desing… No need to gouge. Media 100 sw is at most a $399 product… considering the competition.

[Michael J c]

Go Floh! Thanks from over here too.