[Matthias Kastl]

again, this was not my question. what i want is to copy only the parts of the shots i like from my P2card to my hard drive (via In and Out points). so that in the end just the stuff i like is actually on my hard drive. Of course, when i save the whole P2 card on my hard drive i can then use in and out points to only import the stuff i want to Premiere. But thats not what i want, i want to select the material before i copy it to my hard drive, like i do in final cut….

[Matthias Kastl]

it’s really weird, for me this always seemed to be a basic function every editing program needs to have – a possibility to transfer only the portions of the footage you need from your camera (tape, P2…) on your hard drive. this is for me an important aspect of footage organisation, and to be honest, if this is not possible with premiere, thats a major drawback for me (and I don’t get why not for everybody else too). If you film a lot of footage on a daily basis than having to save everything is just crazy regarding disk space…

[Matthias Kastl]

ok…just read your post matthew,

i still do not get it, why do i need to save the whole P2 structure to my hard drive? working with final cut, yes it will convert the files but because i just convert parts of it i still think it will use less space than if i will capture everthing, or? and most important, using log and capture i will only have the parts of the clips on my hard drive, that are actually useful. If i copy everthing, i will alway have search for the parts of the clips that are useful.

And why do I need the original P2 structure on my hard drive. Once I have the file in final cut, that will be the file i will use also for new edits, there is no reason to use the original structure.

so its like this, i log and capture with final cut, i got exactly the parts of my shots i need and these files are the ones i can use for other edits too. with premiere, i always have tons of stuff i will never use again. puhh… i still can’t see whats the problem with my argument here, i try to have an open mind, but its difficult for me to see any adavantage in having all the stuff on my hard drive, so that when in visit it again i have to search again for the parts that are actually usefull….

matthias

[Matthias Kastl]

Hi Steve,

thanks for your answer, i really appreciate it…just love this forum, But it seems nobody really understands the exact problem I have. Because of course everything you say makes sense and I always do this, saving everything on my hard drive/raid…Yes, backing up is important, but again, this is not my question.

The problem I have, is that with premiere it seems i have to do a backup of a lot unnecessary crap (to put it in an unpolite way). With final cut, i can just capture the stuff i really need, with premiere it seems i always have to save everything on my hard drive. Maybe an example will help, We are shooting a lot of product videos and from these shots 50 percent is often useless (wrong stuff, shaking camera, whatever). With final cut, i can log and capture just the useful stuff (and this is the only stuff i will and have to backup). The rest on the P2 card i will never need in my life, and with final cut this stuff will never be on my hard drive (as I will never need it).

with premiere i have to save EVERYTHING on my harddrive. Which is stupid, as I just want to have the useful shots on my hard drive.

It’s interesting, i have searched the web for a lot of time and nobody seems to complaint about this thing. And i still don’t get why. Why is it great to have all the useless stuff on your hard drive? whats the point? Why is there no option, like in final cut, to use in and out points to only save the stuff in your hard drive that you need?

I really would love to have an answer to that question. Maybe most people with premiere are simply not familiar with the log and capture workflow, but i can still not think of one argument why i should save everything on my hard drive, if its just some scenes (or parts of scenes) from my P2 card, that i need.

again, really thanks for all the answers, i’m only in the business since five years so i’m more than eager to learn, but it really do not understand why everybody loves the way premiere handles P2, because it does not make any sense to me as it is not efficient at all…

greetings from europe
matthias

[Matthias Kastl]

Hi Philip,
thanks a lot for the quick answer, but your solution does not solve my problem. If I follow your instructions the part of the film i selected via the in and out points is still only on the P2 card – not on the actual harddisk. So in this case i still would have to copy all the data on my harddisk, otherwise every clip would be offline as soon as I eject the P2 card. I thought that would be a basic feature in every editing program, I mean do all other people really copy all the data on the hard drive in order to work with the material in premiere? What a incredible waste of diskspace, sounds not at all like a profesional solution to me? or am I wrong?

greetings
matthias

[Matthias Kastl]

thanks for the answer patrice, tried what you said with the new user account, no difference. but thanks for the advice and the information regarding the software tools…

[Matthias Kastl]

hi,

first thanks for your answers john and gary.

@gary: about my IMAC not being able to handle ProRes, it worked perfect for more than a year, so why should there suddenly be a problem? also, if I use my own setting for prores I have no problem capturing it (tested it, worked fine). so there must be another explanation, why it does not show prores in my easy setup, or?

thanks again for your help guys…
matthias

[Matthias Kastl]

thanks for the answer. trashing prefs and repairing permissions didn’t help, DiskWarrior costs around 100 bucks, thats quite a lot for “trying”, is there any other alternative? i also found now a workaround, although it is still obvious that something is wrong.

As I said, when I go to “Easy Setup” there is no ProRes-Codec to be seen. However, if I go to Audio/Video Settings apple ProRes is an option at Capture Preset. So here I can create my own setting with ProRes that will work. Still, there is obviously something wrong as ProRes should show up at Easy Setuo too, so I would still prefer to find a solution, if anybody has any ideas….

thanks
matthias