[Mark Palmos]

hi Labrisher,

i just tried your work around.
actually one does not have to unlink the A/V tracks, just Alt select then delete the Y and Z audio tracks, then trim X to the end of Z… relatively easy, but why oh why the extra steps of deleting the clips first.

thanks for the input,

Mark.

[Mark Palmos]

Hi again, thanks for the input all.

Unfortunately it seems trimming with the ALT key depressed does not work because it does not trim right to the end of the next clip. Instead it stops one frame short! I am truly amazed that PP cannot (it seems) do a simple trim like this without a major 6 step work-around.

Still hoping that im missing something…

Mark

[Mark Palmos]

Hello Craig and Steve,

yes, in my example, the split edit would be on X, and extending the X audio track over both Y and Z. I would expect to do this in two short mouse click-drags since the drag would typically stop at the end of the Y clip and I would have to click and drag it again to trim over the Z audio clip too.

Now I am not at home, so cannot check it, but from what I remember, Pressing Alt or CTRL you can trim up till but not including the last frame of the Y and Z clips… very very strange anomaly.

Mark.

[Mark Palmos]

Hi Craig and Labrisher

The thing is say i want

XXX|YYY|ZZZ
xxx yyy zzz

to become

XXX|YYY|ZZZ
xxx xxx xxx

ie to simply drag the tail of the X clip’s audio over the Y clips audio and then immediately over the z clip’s audio. This would take about a second or less. No matter where or how I split the track (I wouldnt want to split any tracks in this case) there seems to be no way to simply extend X’s audio up till the end of the Z clip WITHOUT having to re-record the clip to the timeline by setting source in and out again, etc… much too tedious a process for a simple and pretty common trimming operation.

Till later
Mark.

[Mark Palmos]

yep, former/current discreet edit user indeed!

Tim, it is astonishing that pp cannot do that.

what if I do not want to move all of one clip, but part of one, and a few others and part of the clip at the out point, ie to paste whatever I lifted? I suppose I would then have to split each track and move “clips”. Very strange omission.

The other thing I was fiddling with and couldnt accomplish was to trim an L cut completely. I could trim it up to the last frame but could not replace the clip completely… there would always be one frame left. So what if I want to trim the audio of one clip right over the audio of the following clip? It seems I cannot do that and have to have one frame of the following clip. Is that true or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Mark.