[Mark Palmos]

Thanks very much Gary, id love to know if it works for you…
and gotcha on the card issue.
Speak soon,
Mark

[Mark Palmos]

Hi Gary

Thanks for the response. Did you try opening the project, did it work ok? My fist post does mention Motion a few times.

Im not sure what you mean by “Additional Kona card is confusing the OS”. I only have one Kona card, the LHe.

I am using the ATI 1900 graphics card, not the standard Macpro one (the 1900 runs fine with Tiger)

Thanks,
Please let me know how you do with the simple project I uploaded,

Mark.

[Mark Palmos]

Hello all again.
Today I reinstalled Kona drivers, created new 8bit to DV kona project, saved closed.
Reopened and loaded the project I was working on using Tiger, opened fine.
Copied all assets to the new project, then closed the Tiger project leaving just the new one.
Saved and closed. Reopened fine (i was getting really excited!!!) and it loop played for about 3 mins then beach ball froze.
I will have to go back to Tiger. This is incredibly irritating as its a top computer, new card, new os, everything updated, and all plugins removed… and yet it fails to work. Sigh…
What to do?

[Mark Palmos]

Hi
I did more testing today, and am sure the Kona has SOMETHING to do with it, or at least makes an existing issue worse… here is what I sent to Aja support:

Monday 17th testing
First off, I should say I have a macbook pro which has the exact same software, same versions etc as my desktop, but does not have the Kona card. I have no crashes whatsoever using the laptop.

Secondly, its an issue that only exists having upgraded to Leopard.

1/ From testing last week, the Kona drivers had not yet been re-installed, so I left them uninstalled for the initial testing.
2/ removed all plugins
3/ opened project “most recent”, crashed when “preparing video for display” (which means either it was corrupted when crashing last week, or the crashes are not completely caused by the Kona card.)
4/ opened project “loads fine no aja” and it loaded fine – played for 2 mins no crash.

5/ installed Aja again – “loads fine no aja” loaded fine but after 40 secs of playback, fcp froze (Perhaps 2 mins of good playback without Kona was too short to really ascertain whether the crashes using Kona were related.
6/ loaded “most recent” again and it worked for 1 min. I then closed fcp and reopened it with “loads fine no aja” and it froze while opening a motion animation.
7/ I tried this again, several times, crashed each time.
8/ rebooted computer, tried same project again and it worked this time! Played back for less than a minute and it froze playing a motion animation.

9/ uninstalled Aja with uninstaller, and loaded “loads fine no aja” and have been loop playing it back for 15 mins, NO CRASHES!
10/ closed FCP and loaded again, bizarrely FCP crashed “preparing video for display”. This was the exact same project which worked fine for 15 mins of playback.
11/ force killed FCP and repeatedly tried to open any of the copies of the projects known to have opened, and FCP crashed out every time.
12/ rebooted mac. This resulted in the projects being playable again!

So it seems clear so far that when FCP has crashed once it will not open properly again unless the computer is restarted. This is regardless of Kona.

The question now is whether the system with the Kona drivers installed will allow motion animations to loop for 15 minutes.

13/ To try work with as clean a project as possible, I created a new project, drag and dropped the bins and timeilnes and media from the project I had been looping to the new project and then closed the original project. I looped the new one for 15 mins.

14/ installed Kona drivers again, restart, open project which had been looping fine for 15 mins. Opens fine but crashes after 20 seconds.
15/ restart computer, open that project again, same crash after less than a minute.

16/ uninstall the kona drivers, playback for 10 minutes – no problem.

The conclusion I come to is not 100% black and white. It is clear that the crashes are FAR more frequent and consistent with the Kona drivers. With Kona drivers installed, I had never been able to play a timeline with many Motion animations for more than a minute. Conversely, with the Aja drivers uninstalled, the system would regularly play back without crashing – and I did this several times for 10-15 minutes.

[Mark Palmos]

hi crispy,
i will be able to do more testing when i get to work on monday, and will try that – but in any event, will have to work with THAT project… so may have to go back to tiger if the guys at aja cant figure out the problem with leopard.

another thing i will do is to remove all the plugins i have installed after fresh-installing leopard. There could be some issue there.
till later
mark.

[Mark Palmos]

hi deeardubbleya
ive now done a fresh install of leopard and it is different from how it was on tiger.
tiger with v4 drivers would sometims be a whole second behind on the PAL monitor, and sometimes just a few frames. Scrubbing was always sluggish and there has alwasy been a lag of some kind.

the leopard install is very odd, firstly because the PAL monitor is AHEAD of the computer display (no idea how that is possible) and more of a problem is the terrible crashfest I have loading FCP projects with motion anims in them.

hopefully i will be a happy camper again soon…

cheers,
mark.

[Mark Palmos]

I just spoke to Steve at AJA and he was very helpful and friendly… thanks steve
I will be sending my system report on monday, hopefully he will spot something.
They have an 8 core like mine running there, and have had NO issues – “seamless” – so there is NO reason why my system should be behaving like it is – so hopefully there will be a solution.
Cheers,
Mark.

[Mark Palmos]

Hi
I will fiddle with those settings, though there are much bigger problems im having with Kona LHE at the moment… but it seems weird that sync can be a whole second out, and scrubbing backwards and forwards is as thogh via a long elastic band, it is extremely un-responsive when compared to matrox axio. (or discreet edit with a targa card for that matter)
ta
mark.

[Mark Palmos]

Hi
Im getting a very strange thing happening, the PAL Video monitor is about 2 or 3 frames ahead of the computer playback! Very strange… on version 4 the video monitor was always behind the computer plyback, and sometimes it was a whole second behind!

This is a massive shortcoming of Aja, the Matrox Axio suffers no lag at all. It is impossible to use the Aja Kona Lhe for cutting to music because the sync issues are so bad.

5.0 seems to have improved, but it is still off – weird that it is AHEAD of the computer though!

Mark.

[Mark Palmos]

BTW my macbook pro works fine with leopard/6.02/Motion, so could it be the Aja card?
I will remove the drivers and see what happens.