Marcus Moore
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First off, “place” doesn’t matter, since there’s no tracks. In your situation I’d just select the element I need to change the Role for and change it’s role. It doesn’t need to move, I don’t need to find room for it amongst the other dialogue tracks, and I don’t have to create a new track and bump everything else down to make room if there’s no more space there.
Let me put it this way- my experience in editing on X after 3 years, and after editing in FCP Legacy since 2002, is that any time I may loose in having to make those occasional Roles adjustments, is WAY outpaced by all the times I don’t have to worry what I’m doing with my edit, and what effect that has on the audio components below.
It’s not a perfect system yet. I would love to see Roles dictate a visual order, grouping Roles together- but never forcing me to worry about individual audio clip conflicts.
On your other point, there’s no trick to dissolves on connected clips. Select the end you want to dissolve and hit “t”, and it adds a dissolve. This puts it into a container called a storyline- but that doesn’t represent any extra effort on the editors part.
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I’m not sure- but I know I read when it came out that 10.1 was required for the specific Library structure they were using- so (I believe) it’s an OS level improvement.
I’ll do some digging to see if I can find some more info.
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Well, first off, you CAN mix within X- there’s nothing that says you have to go to another tool. I’ve delivered lots of broadcast spots without punting to ProTools or Logic.
If you’re using Premier & Audition, then you’re on CC- and say hello to $55/mo. Which means even if I’ve paid for Logic and FCPX, then after 9 months on subscription you’ve paid more than me. After 18 months you’ve paid double what I have- I’m not arguing the value of CC (I’m a subscriber too), but playing this money game is a bit simplistic.
As for Roles, I set them at the start and then never have to worry about how many layers of dialogue or effects I have, never have to change my track arrangement if I need more channels for a specific audio type, and I don’t have to tell the audio engineer what’s where, because my Roles info comes thru in my AAF file.
Would I like some more functionality within X… sure. But the picture you paint is not the same one that I have from experience.
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My thinking that some form of unmanaged library would have been possible in 2011, since they exist in other NLEs. I’m just saying this particular implementation using these Library bundles specifically, wasn’t possible before Mavericks.
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Well, to be fair, it was Mavericks which enabled Libraries (since you can’t have 10.1 on anything earlier)- so Libraries in their current incarnation couldn’t have happened before last year.
But I agree with the sentiment that this was not planned. The last two major updates have been about establishing an entirely new foundation for media management. No one sets out to do that.
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I don’t think so with Garage Band- The Logic Pro guys are way off in Germany. I don’t think they’re being developed by the same team. Can you even import GarageBand sessions into Logic?
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I’m dubious as to whether Apple sees Logic as a proper audio post DAW. Interoperability certainly hasn’t seemed a priority up to now.
My post is mostly interested in Roles as an organizational tool. Like Keywords in the Event Browser, it seems like using Roles to better organize timeline elements is an obvious course. Once you do that, Roles become sort of like Logic Stack Stracks, and lots of possible audio workflow possibilities arise.
I’m not interesting in Apple wasting the time to try and make FCPX into a full on DAW- as you say, if you’re serious enough about it you’re going out to a 3rd party app anyway. But I think the toolset could be expanded in some useful ways. People will always want a bit more functionality, so where to draw that line is I’m sure a CONSTANT issue not only for FCPX, but all NLEs.
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Gary- the reason people didn’t want to admit it was because it wasn’t true. FCPX and iMovie were two entirely different codebases with no common code. Visually similar, yes. FCPX importing iMovie projects, yes. But I can import Photoshop files into Pixelmator, so I’m not sure that’s a hard and fast indicator of anything.
So that was absolutely true up until the release of iMovie 10 last October. iMovie was rewritten, after which it contained hidden/walled-off versions of both FCPX and Motion.
We’ll have to see how this new Photos.app thing plays out after release- if it’s actually able to walk the line between simple consumer functionality and deeper toolsets.
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If I could ask- how is this helpful for you?
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Roles- great for timeline organization, and great to facilitate audio mixing.
My thoughts here-
https://disproportionatepictures.blogspot.ca/2014/05/roles.html