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Thoughts on 10.1.2
Posted by Oliver Peters on June 28, 2014 at 2:25 pmIt’s interesting that this update took SO long. There must have been a lot busted under-the-hood 😉
It seems like ProApps has shifted into a refinement mode. That’s great, but there is a noticeable lack of new features in the update. Does that signal to users that Apple is perfectly happy with the design and function of the app just the way it is? Meaning, it’s unlikely that we’ll see a better approach to mixing and/or some of the other features that folks here have been asking for.
Thoughts?
– Oliver
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David Mathis
June 28, 2014 at 3:02 pmThe most significant update in FCP X history came very late last year followed by a minor update four weeks later. At this point it appears that Apple is focusing on the new OS, thinking it will be a fall release. So my guess is minor updates for now, and perhaps something new later this year or early next year. Then again, we saw an update on a Friday which is a little unusual as Tuesday and Thursday have been the traditional choice for updates.
I just hope that the rumor FCP X will be getting the axe next will simply disappear.
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Oliver Peters
June 28, 2014 at 3:10 pm[David Mathis] “I just hope that the rumor FCP X will be getting the axe next will simply disappear.”
There is NO SUCH RUMOR other than what people have conjured up in their own minds based on the EOL of Aperture.
[David Mathis] “The most significant update in FCP X history came very late last year “
In the past, there have been a couple of big FCP X updates. The earliest was probably not an update at all, but rather the completion of things that didn’t work at launch, which was essentially a public beta, as far as I’m concerned.
The update last year, was to change libraries. This was as much of an admission by Apple that their original approach was wrong, as you’ll ever see out of Apple. Likewise, I think the change in this update about the date/time stamp naming constitutes the same thing. Basically, these are course corrections.
I suspect ProApps has their hands full with OS changes just as much as outside companies. The new XQ codec might have also thrown some curve balls that we aren’t aware of.
– Oliver
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David Mathis
June 28, 2014 at 3:25 pm[Oliver Peters] “There is NO SUCH RUMOR other than what people have conjured up in their own minds based on the EOL of Aperture.”
This is what I was referring to.
I agree with you on the second point in its entirety. Overall very pleased with the direction Apple has taken. Still room for improvement in FCP X but it has improved significantly since its release.
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Bill Davis
June 28, 2014 at 3:29 pmI guess I’m just not a glass half empty type guy. And I’ve always been of the opinion that the quickest path to constant disappointment is to come at things based on how you wished they were -rather than how they actually are.
This morning I’ve been all smiles.
X is stronger today than it was yesterday. It’s capabilities keep improving.
And part of it is because one of the key workflow enhancements in this rev hits squarely in my day to day working life! The unexpected VoiceOver love I totally didn’t expect!!! And it’s awesome. I do a lot of professional narration and voice work and have been using X for all my VO recording for the past few years and being able to record alt takes directly into auditions alone is outstanding.
There’s a thread on another board about editors who really miss import with handles and are disappointed that it didn’t come back. And there’s me, who got a massive improvement right in my wheelhouse.
Plus just read that my friend Phil Hodgetts is really excited about the new global Library level XML implementation.Thats the thing. We ALL see the same tool and project that what’s wrong for us is wrong for all. (and, of course that whats good for us is good for all! But that’s seldom true.
Starting this morning, my daily work will be easier.
So the smile here is legit. I got a big present yesterday. Thank you Apple FCP X team!
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Marcus Moore
June 28, 2014 at 3:29 pmYes. It seems like the last two update have been very focused on fixing foundational issues, primarily around media management, which I’m sure we can all get behind.
Whether that is something that had to be addressed first, before moving on to other things; or whether a more full-featured audio solution just isn’t ready yet, or relies on some Yosemite features to implement they way they want to— we’ll never know. But I do hope to see some movement on that front in the near future.
I am satisfied though that the ever expanding trend of longer durations between feature updates has been reversed. We’re 190 days since 10.1 launched, so that’s way less of an interval than between 10.0.3 and 10.0.6 (266 days), or between 10.0.6 and 10.1 (428 days). On that track I think another, post Yosemite, update this year is pretty likely.
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Andy Neil
June 28, 2014 at 3:47 pmMy guess is that the all the feature updates from 10.0 to 10.09 were things that were in the plan from the beginning (minus a few they probably didn’t think of like suspending connection points). Then through working with facilities and super users they discovered that the Events/Project setup they’d designed was not adequate to shared environment or media management so they redesigned the Libraries. Which led to this update which seems to be obviously taking advantage of the new paradigm to expand the media management capabilities.
I do think that they are working on additional solutions for audio (although personally, I think it’s almost there), and I think there’s stuff they want to do with project sharing or more facility based workflows. I think figuring out how to implement some of these type changes which aren’t immediately intuitive are making features updates slower.
Andy
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Tony West
June 28, 2014 at 4:01 pmBill, I’m glad you mentioned the VO record.
I have been using that for a while now and have liked the feature. I was wondering if anybody knew how to keep the track from going down in the storyline automatically.
I want it to just go into the event that I choose until I’m ready for it to go down there.
I don’t want all the bad takes going down there. Maybe I’m missing something simple?
I like that I can drag right into that browser now and have items tagged. It’s a little thing but faster to hit that bigger target than aiming for an event since I do most of my organization in the finder then drag and tag
Everything seems to be working smoothly so that’s nice to.
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Craig Seeman
June 28, 2014 at 4:39 pm[tony west] “I want it to just go into the event that I choose until I’m ready for it to go down there. “
Dare I say there’s a need for an easy way to piece together parts of VO takes much as was possible in SoundTrack Pro.
Even better than dumping them straight into an Event, perhaps an area where takes are layered so they can be pieced together. Sure there are workarounds but, for me, this would be a common function.
I font the “Audition” idea is still geared towards picking the single best take whereas I often want to piece together parts of takes.
One might see it as something like “multicam” for audio only.
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Lance Bachelder
June 28, 2014 at 5:10 pmThe big still missing item for me is some sort of mixer. I’d even take just a mixer that showed all the roles – treat roles like busses so I could add say a compressor to each buss and control the level of everything with the same role. The other solution and one one I’m probably gonna try soon is just using Logic and finishing all my mixes there. I don’t own Logic yet but not happy with Audition so…
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Aindreas Gallagher
June 28, 2014 at 5:15 pmI don’t know enough to know – but does the, now complete, long four year walk back to what is once again effectively an FCP7 project file with basically everything else external if you want – right down to render files – solve the problems raised with the use of X in a shared facility? Or at least that it has as many or as few problems as 7 had that way?
The finder tags thing is nice too right? I remember people on here asking for that when tags were first introduced.
It seems hard not to notice it took pro apps the guts of two years to make a library file container and re-order xml tho.
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