Marcus Moore
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I think the most obvious scenario is this-
If you own X, after 10.1 comes out there will be a new application called Final Cut Pro X with a $299 price tag.
If you don’t own X, then you see exactly the same thing.
If you’re machine doesn’t meet the specs for the new FCPX, it will tell you. I don’t think they’ll let people download the old version after 10.1 is released. Unless you already purchased it, I don’t think you can still download Logic Pro 9.
If you downloaded X originally, but were on an old version and wanted to update to 10.0.9 even though 10.1 was out, you can still do that thru purchase history. And if Apple needed to, they could push out an update to the 10.0.9 version the same way, as 10.0.10.
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Agreed- we’re all engaging in fun speculation, and with some interesting (and conflicting) data points.
So it’s going to be really interesting to see how it all turns out.
Apple has generally commoditized software, and I think we’re currently seeing a fresh move to add value to both their OS platforms by bundling software with new hardware purchases. iLife has always been free on OSX, and I think Apple’s recent moves with their iWork apps (both iWork in the cloud and free with hardware on iOS) are first as Apple’s answer to Google Docs, and second jumping on the hole left by Microsoft no bringing Office to iOS. With Office365 as a paid service, I think Apple sees an opportunity to grab some marketshare. If someone can use Pages on their iOS device AND on their Windows PC, why pay for Office (depending on your usage of course)?
So while there’s a case to do this, I think you have to look at iLife/iWork and ProApps as two separate categories. Right now the only data points we have for ProApps on the appStore are FCPX, Motion5, Compressor, Aperture, and both LogicPro9 and LogicProX. All these have been full price paid apps. And unless something dramatic changes I think that’s what we should expect.
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I find that highly likely.
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I’ve got one of these, spec’d out to the nines, including the 750GB SSD. Let me know when you start looking- I might be of a mind to let her go depending on how much this MacPro is going to set me back.
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You are correct to a certain extent- but this is still the change from one major version number to the next.
You are right about the naming convention though. FCPX will be FCPX for at least a decade, or until whatever comes after 10.9. I suppose Apple could do what they have done with their iLife and iWork products and call the new version FCPX 2013.
And I’m doubtful that they’ll leave the current version up for sale, even if they meet separate system requirements. I think we can be pretty certain that 10.1 will likely have the same OS10.8.3 requirement as LogicProX. And they didn’t leave LogicPro9 up in the appStore for those who can’t run the new software, so I think that sends a clear message.
The new software will require a certain minimum OS and hardware, just like the last one did.
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Yeah. It’s a real tough call to make on timing.
On one hand you have 10.0.6 was released at this event last year. So there is precedent.
On the other hand you have any either technical or PR crossover with Mavericks and the MacPro.
And above all this is the question of whether FCPX 10.1 is ready. They may need until mid-Nov to be ready to launch. Who knows.
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[Mark Dobson] “So that sounds pretty conclusive that the big upgrade we are all waiting for will cost extra and the next question would be how much? Presumably this will be more than the present cost of the software.”
I’m not sure I follow- you’re imagining that 10.1 will cost more than the $299 that the software currently sells for? If so, I disagree. Just like Logic9 to LogicX, the price for the software will probably remain the same.
[Mark Dobson] “Whilst existing versions will no doubt continue to be supported I doubt that there will be 2 versions for sale on the App store, so all existing users will need to pay for the enhanced software or stick with 10.0.1.”
I think you mean 10.0.9. And again, just like any software in the appStore, you can still have access to older versions after newer ones come out. If someone decides to stick with 10.0.9 for the time being, if they buy a new computer, they’ll still be able to download the latest version of 10.0 from their purchase history. And if a critical bug were found, Apple could still update 10.0.
As you point out, I think Apple spells out the line for unpaid/paid updates quite clearly.
The only way 10.1 is a free update is if Apple decides to do it as a MASSIVE PR back-peddle. And frankly, I think that’s unlikely.
Apple provided refunds to those who wanted them right after release, and Apple has provided 30 day free trials since 10.0.1. If 10.1 IS a big upgrade, then I hope they continue with the free trial, so that people can take the time to re-evaluate it before purchasing.
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The WWDC introduction and the teaser page on Apple’s site are explicit that the MacPro comes standard with dual GPUs.
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There are others I heard who were only brought up to speed recently- so it certainly plausible.
In terms of when 10.1 will be in our hands, depending on when Mavericks and the MacPro ship, either 22nd, 29th, or Nov 5th.
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Absolutely. If FCPX and the MacPro aren’t both released by then I’ll eat my hat or other available equivalent attire.
I’ll probably just ending up ordering mine thru the local Apple Store. I have a good relationship with the business reps there- and the standard business discount applied to a top-end MacPro will probably be enough to buy another Mac!