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  • All right!

    I will open a new thread when I’m ready.

    Thanks again! 🙂

  • I Thank you Walter Sokya for helping.
    The compressor doesn’t do the job, nor FCPX too, and as I said above, 25 worse, 30 better, 60 is same.

    the duplication deletion maybe is a great idea!, but are you sure it’s same as 60? and would this delete the correct one only? I don’t like to loose any frames originally!
    and yes it’s 25 frames in 60 frames video.

    I’m right now on Mac, I may not able to come to windows soon. perhaps next month? 🙂

    Do you have any other ideas? (especially on Mac)

    Thanks dear! 🙂

  • Well, I tried with compressor too, it isn’t same as 60 frames (movements),
    but Thank you Shane Ross for the Screenflow app, i will try this next time.

  • recorded live from web, internet tv using quicktimeX, and I didn’t know how to select to 25 rather than 60 from quicktime, & the more important… I can’t record it anymore, it’s gone on web.

    you said “where it says originally frames”, of course I used videospec and iMediaHUD to know the MOV captured, all of them said the current frame is 60 but originally is 25 frames.

    So again, The video is a PAL square pixel, 768×576/25p, and I recorded as 768×576/60p (used selection quicktimeX).
    from current frames > to > original frames = how? (without reduce quality)
    What do you do to fix this problem?

    Thanks

  • I think there is something wrong with myself that I don’t understand?

    But let ask you that,
    I have iPad, iPhone, other devices that records at highest 30p, and their movements (playback on any devices) are laggy or non-real life look.
    and I have a camcorder this Samsung HMX-M20, https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Maximum-Camcorder-1080P-Finger/dp/B00365EA4S which records 1080/60p, the movements are real life like in 60p and 60i, but movements in 30p and 30i are same as the devices above (iphone ipad..etc)

    So here is why I say that 60p are real, and 30p are light and not real life look but only for capacity storage, I hope that I’m wrong…
    Thanks

  • a special Thanks to Walter Soyka, &Thanks to you all everybody!

    I got my way to what to do, I should choose too small (under one 1TB SSD) or too big huge above 4TB RAID, choosing normal stage is overpriced.

    Gary Huff, isn’t 30p and 25p lag movement? (non real life?), I have my old sony camcorder 8mm, they’re 50i and it’s real life like.

    The Aljazeera HD should be 50i or 50p, (sorry to say 60i, maybe in USA 60i)

  • Well I’m not sure about that, But I have to save my real life videos as 60p, and looks like that is why my Samsung LED Series 5 TV doesn’t show the 1080/60p file from directly from disk, even it’s from Samsung Camcorder recoder! Samsung doesn’t play on Samsung! Computers are the master!
    I think we should skip the Bluray as Apple did, and store our content as a content on disc (bluray) rather than making for bluray player.

    I don’t have much 60p, as you know… most of content available are either frames 24, 25 and 30.

    About streaming service, how do you say 60 frames isn’t allowed? or you mean progressive 60p isn’t allowed but interlaced 60i is allowed?
    because for example, Aljazeera HD is 60 frames (you can easily know by the people movement)

  • You have catch me! I really liked you answers! Dear, Walter Soyka

    only I didn’t understand really this from you: (500 Mb/s storage will not cut it beyond a single stream of 1080p60)?
    for the 30 frames are half the numbers Mb/s you said for the 60 frames, right?

    by the way, where and what is ProRes Challenge?, I searched for this but I liked from you to give me your recommended way.

    About real life (not cartoons):
    The problems of 30 frames aren’t real life (look) like on 60Hz TVs (only I’m not sure about OLED TVs), but on 120Hz TVs it make the video double the 60Hz refresh rate, which makes the 30 frames look like the 60 frames which is looks real life, but later I saw the 120Hz aren’t good idea, so I have to find a solution, and you have answered my solution; it’s the serious storage! I guess it’s the SSD RAID Thunderbolt 2

  • I Thank you for the numbers, but you do mean in Megabit or MegaByte?, 450Mb/s or 450MB/s | it’s a huge different.

    So if I choose uncompressed videos, then I should get at least 4TB storage. and that’s mean included 3 or 4 HDDs with a speed above 500Mb/s which would be cheaper and even faster (depends the brand)
    But if we choose a lower space for HDD RAID, it would be more expensive than SSD and even losing the important speed!, so here was I said why going to a more expensive 1TB/2TB RAID, lower space and lower speed. and I looked up again that they are really more expensive and overpriced if choosing the 1TB/2TB RAID HDD.

    but if I choose compressed videos, then it’s look like fine to get 512GB and above that an SSD can be fine with a USB3 or internal (internally system should be at least ~ 333Mb/sec if it’s 500Mb/sec cleanly), or I May can just grab a SATA3 SSD with connection Kit USB3, or thunderbolt if possible.

    From what I understood, I should choose either a huge size more than 4TB thunderbolt, or a SSD 1TB/512GB (internal or external USB3). and both of them can handle 1080p and 4K.

    uncompressed videos are better quality, but if you edit a 4K or 1080p compressed video in 500Mb/s storage, there won’t be need to optimize (uncompressing) with FCPX… right?

    Well, about real-world usage. it’s difficult to say. I can say that I do everything… animation 3D, cartoon, documentary, music…etc, maybe I should say personally usage. and I have videos that are up to 6 hours.

    Thanks for your informations

  • okay then show me a device that is faster and not lower space and not overpriced with it.
    this SSD https://www.storagereview.com/adata_premier_pro_sp920_sata_ssd_review is 512GB for $339 or 1TB for $530. and it has 560Mb read/500 write, now is their like that with same speed or faster?

    I liked to know, if we edit videos on too slow HDD, you will fill just slow or it’s unstable to edit a HD on 5400rpm internal?

    how about how much megabit enough speed for 1080p and 2160p at 60 frames?

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