Kevin Wild
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Tell him to not forget to hook up the black burst sync…
His number one post that I read over and over. 🙂
KW
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Sorry to keep dragging this out…
I have not tried that, but I seriously don’t think that will help from the way the image is. I actually took a picture of it on my iPhone and sent it to Tech Support while talking with them. It’s a real issue.
To recreate, just use either Boris or Text Tool to do any text on screen in an HD sequence and put it over a colored background. Then, choose downconvert (center cut or letterbox) and view on a large Plasma (we have 50″ and 42″ Panasonic and both showed it). The “ghosting” is a very soft shadowy shape of the text above and below it… It will NOT show up on the computer monitors…and is not clearly seen on smaller monitors.
It took a while for AJA Tech Support to see it…we went around and around. He at first didn’t see it as he told me he was using smaller CRTs to test. He then got with a supervisor and checked it on a large monitor and called me back saying “yes, we see it now.” So, again, it’s real and not something I’m goofing up on my end. 🙂
I really do NOT want to make this sound negative against AJA, though I hope we hear something soon about a fix for this. They were great on the phone support and called me back several times that day and kept at it until they saw what I was seeing.
Thx.
Kevin
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Walter, do you guys use Kona 2′ or 3’s?
Again, this is absolutely a real bug; AJA took a while but acknowledged they are seeing it when I called them. But this was using LH’s.
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Hey, Gary. Believe me, I’m quite familiar and frustrated with the ole’ 24F. Had I known 2 years ago that 2 years later there still wouldn’t be a deck that supported the camera with 24F, I would never have bought the $9,000 H1. We also have an A1…ugh, Canon really blew this, in my opinion. It’s possible the one interlacing problem is related to this, but I’ll have to test it more.
The ghosting isn’t standard interlacing. It’s a real problem. Text looks horrible…like I said, you can do the simplest way possible: just text on a background at 1080i and then downconvert and look at it on a big monitor. It’s not good. I have faith that AJA will make it right soon. From the lack of others screaming about this :-), I would assume that this is only a Kona LHe bug, too, and not a Kona3 problem.
Thanks.
KW
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Just to be clear, the ghosting images we are seeing have nothing to do with HDV. It does it on the downconvert period, regardless of codec. I even tested uncompressed HD. Also to be clear, this is using the KonaLH. It’s possible it’s not an issue on the Kona 3. We have 3 LHe’s and they all do it…as does the one at AJA tech support.
Yes, I’m starting to think the other interlacing issue might be Canon’s weird-ass 24F! I will call AJA when I have downtime to see what they think on that one.
Thanks!
Kevin
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Sorry, that came across as obnoxious. AJA support was pretty great last week, though I do hope we hear that they have a fix to that downconvert ghosting soon.
(You can see this even if you do a simple text on a blank colored background in HD. Then, view the downconverted output on a large screen. The text will look ghosted above and below the text…it took AJA a while to see it, but they did once they put it on a large Plasma.)
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Sorry, AJA, I already spent 3-4 hours last week with the known downconvert issue. Santi-You are seeing this one, right? AJA acknowledged it when I was on the phone with them.
I’m thinking the interlacing issue might have to do with the 24F…but again, Santi, what is the deal with the upper versus lower? Is it converting the fields on the fly?
Thx.
Kevin
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Sorry, but I disagree. Why would you recapture? It’s not going to get any better if the original source footage is DV. Unless you are incorporating a lot of photographs scanned in with moves and/or a lot of text, I wouldn’t take all the time and huge amounts of space (I’m assuming you have a lot of tapes for a doc) to recapture.
There are plenty of broadcast shows these days shot and edited on DV and only at the end, converted and output to Beta, Dbeta, etc. I’m working on one now…all DV.
Just my $.02.
KW
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Nobody is downconverting?? These seem like obvious bugs…I can’t imagine we are the only ones having these problems.
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I can only speak for MetaSan, but I highly recommend it. We installed it on a similar setup: we have 3 edit suites w Kona LHe’s and 2 computers (iMacs) that are just workstations. The great thing about MetaSAN is they give you a free 30 day trial. We are nearing the end of ours and I’ll buy it.
Setting up is fairly easy, but their tech support did a nice and simple webex session with us and set up the control panel so it was perfect. Once setup, it works great. The only time I need to go to the control panel is when I try and mount another drive. I’m not sure why you have to go and tell it it’s okay, but you do.
Great stuff. You might as well try the trial, though I would guess like me, you’ll just stick with it once you try it.
I LOVE having a single volume that works on all 3 of our editing stations. Good stuff.
Kevin