Kevin Dearing
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Yeah, I normally only edit uncompressed avi’s but have typically (though I’m sure it’s not the best way to do things) open the file in Premiere first, then export it out without doing much of anything – maybe trim the head or tail but that’s it. Then I import the exported, uncompressed avi into my project and go to town..
I’ll post the codec’s that are in use.. Perhaps I’ll register the software you mentioned – though I found that I have a registered version of TmpEnc which seemed to work out for me – well, the ripped DVD I was able to trim down to the scene I’m interested in while converting it to various different formats (tried several with same results) and while I’m able to import into Premiere and get video and audio, Premiere crashes on me if I try to render or export (haven’t tried to do anything else yet..)
Anyway, like you said, it’s prob a codec problem so I’ll take a look at that tonight, and post it when I get home..
Thanks again for your time Vincent,
–KTFA
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Ok, I don’t know why (which bugs me) but AVSVideoTools converted it successfully so that I could import into Premiere and have both, video and audio..
So now I have to register it and redo to get rid of the watermark.
But if anyone knows what’s happening (I know – long shot) I’d love to hear an explaination.. (even if I don’t wind up understanding it! lol)
Thanks again Vincent!
–KTFA
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Well, it said that the codec’s were installed. I left for work with it converting the file so I’ll try the converted file tonight..
–KTFA
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Thanks Vincent, I’ll check those apps out.
–KTFA
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“…Media composer – heck, I can’t even remember what Avid’s earlier NLE was called…”
Media Suite Pro
–KTFA
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Ha. Cracked me up too. But then when I got to the bottom:
“…*OTD – Older than Dirt, which in this industry applies to anyone having run a Media Composer, or any other edit system for that matter, since before Windows 95 was released….”
That sobered me up… Man.. I guess I’m old. My first NLE was the Toaster Flyer and before that I was all analog for a while.
Media composer – heck, I can’t even remember what Avid’s earlier NLE was called – they discontinued it sometime around ’96 ?? I used that thing for … who knows how long! We had a whopping 18 Striped gigs for editing Weddings at the highest AVR we could muster from the system (can’t remember what it was). I remember having to ‘shift the P ram’ or whatever like once a week on our power mac 8500’s.
Then we got the Composer 1000 system. then I jumped out of the biz.. (which I now miss horribly) Now I’m just playing around at home with … hehe adobe premiere! But hey, it’s good for what I do – play around, occasionally shoot a school play or do a video for my Church or something..
But I think I’m kinda happy that I don’t have to deal with Adrenaline!
–KTFA
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“…The cynical answer is perhaps that it takes exactly as much time as you have before the deadline. I.E. a lot of folks just keep working at it until they run out of time, the saying goes: “a project is never truly finished, merely abandoned at some point”. In news cutting, you definitely have a short deadline most times, and you just throw things together as best you can in the time alloted and that’s all you can do. …”
Oh how true how true!
I just shot a school play for my friend who is a teacher at the school. The sound guy there, well… not good. Fortunately I had a clue that this was the case from one of the rehearsals I attended and made some other arrangements
Long story short, my 3 cam edit took:
– Roughly 4 hours to capture (most of which was un-attended)(hour and a half run time)
– Roughly 4 hours to cut which includes synching the camera’s and since I’m using Adobe Premiere these days, I just went through the whole thing switching it in real time. Then I went back and tightened up my edits, put a dissolve in here or there for a couple of the songs where it sort of fit and that’s about it video wise..
– Putting the DVD menu together took a few hours because I was using Encore for the first time (I also was playing around in After Effects for the first time too) and I kind of over did it a bit (it’s nice – not cheesy over done, but for what the project was I spent way too much time on it if you know what I mean.)
– Then came the audio. If I didn’t have a deadline I’d still be working on it today! My plan was as follows:
– Take a line straight from the board which I did (too bad the audio guy moved my line to one of his aux outs which didn’t have all of the mic’s assigned to it)
– I had a shotgun mic and
– I put three of my own wireless mic’s on the main characters and ran them into a field mixer and pumped them into my third camera.Well, since the Audio guy was so… eh.. how do I say this nicely? Horrible at his job (in his defense he’s just a techie type guy for the school district – not a “real” audio guy), anyway I wound up with the feedback in all of my sources (about every two minutes or so). Then the open mic’s that kept rumbling and rustling around – constantly – hardly any breaks where you couldn’t hear a mic rustling against clothes extremely loud or some kid whispering to another kid back stage) were being pumped through the speakers loud enough that again, they were an issue on most of my sources most of the time.
Alright, you probably got the idea and it was so recent that I’m starting to get frustrated again just typing about it so I’m going to stop posting about it right now. My point was that I’d still be trying to clean up the audio now (two weeks after I shipped the DVD to the duplication house) if I could.
But back on topic, like the others have said, it all depends. Real helpful huh? In my case, there really wasn’t much creative decision involved – just switching and cleaning up. Your stuff is different – it’ll take more time than my school play (video) did. (Here’s hoping that your audio guy has half a clue!)
Once you’ve done a few, you kind of get into your own rhythm and at that point you’ll be able to give more realistic quotes until then, if you can, allow yourself a lot more time than you think anyone could possibly need – just in case my audio guy happens to be your audio guy! 🙂 And the more creative license you’ll have with the piece, the more time you should expect to spend on it (at least that’s how I tend to work!)
–KTFA
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How funny!
“…One of my first movies. I bagan making stop-motion shorts in ’84 with stuffed animals and a Quazar VHS camera…”
I did the same thing just 3 years later than you!
I was in college and had a shoot coming up the following morning so I had all of the gear at my apartment. I wasn’t all that familiar with the gear so I decided to create a project to help me get familiar with it. Turned out to be a stop frame animation with my roomate’s daughter’s toys.
Since that took a while and it was like 3 am when I was done, I figured that I should stay up all night so I didn’t blow my call time at the shoot. So I woke up my roomate and we did a spoof-mercial for a fictional product “OIC” (Out it comes) a super laxitive – “Works so fast you better be in the bathroom when you take it!” – kind of a play off of the Nyquil jokes… I had my professor do the voice over for it. Man that was fun. Too bad I didn’t know how to white balance the camera at that point.
So I have one of these trips down memory lane coming up myself – lots of stuff on VHS – I still have some of my college stuff on 3/4″ (I’ll prob have to rent a player to get that converted actually I’ll probably scrap that but hold onto the tape for nostalgic purposes – you know, to show the grand-kids). I’ve got scads of Hi-8 tapes all over the place that I want to burn to DVD.. I’ve also got a bunch of Beta SP tapes all over the place that I need to convert too.. Hopefully it won’t cost me too much to do that.. But the Beta SP stuff I’d like to hold on to…
Anyway, thanks for sharing – I’ll have a look at your stuff this weekend as I clean up my office a little!
–KTFA
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I just picked up three wireless lav’s UHF – dual diversity on eBay for roughly $300. Just make sure the seller has good feedback and that the units have been serviced regularly if they are older but I saw a lot of stuff on there that were used once or twice (reportedly). I’m very happy with my on a budget gear!
–KTFA
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Thanks Jeff
–KTFA