[J. Tad newberry]

thanks for the tip, Rabbi! : )

Thanks again!

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[J. Tad newberry]

Rabbi Bob,

You now have a new devoted disciple (me). After snagging a Horita BSG-50 on ebay yesterday (and not patient enough for it to show up in a few days, i rented a Videotek VSG-201 (a rather ancient BBG) from my dealer/engineers, came home, hooked it up…and i am breathless. Just dropped a tape without a hitch. Amazing how the right toys make little kids so happy.

Thanks again for your patience with my boneheaded questions as well as your determination in getting me to act!

Peace has returned to the world.

Thanks again!

J. Tad Newberry
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[J. Tad newberry]

Ooh Bob…i think i must have a brain tumor or something (and, no, i’m not making fun of folks with such things). YES, ye olde BetaSP camera is hooked up the system…BUT, when i re-cabled everything this afternoon, i sen the comp vid out from the cam to the ref in on the card! So, back to square one,

(geez…sorry this is becoming “Sync 101″…)

Camera is turned on. Vid out from camera is going to Ref in on deck (when looking at the back of the 1800, the upper left connector – which has a looping connector to the right of it (at least, there’s a line between the two, as there is between the pair of BNC connectors beneath this pair). I connect that looped connector (2nd from upper left) to the Ref in on the card, and i am not using the Y-loop at all with this setup, just putting Y out from the card to Y in on deck. Voila! No REF! (and “non std ref” doesn’t show up), and black bar through the picture on the monitor. Say what? BUT, i can dump and play back tapes…just have the black bar through the monitor when playing/scrubbing on the timeline. Maybe with this set up you were meaning for me to do the Y-loop through? I hadn’t thought so, but tried it anyway…and then where to put the output from the camera to the deck, and the output from the deck to the card?

Maybe i’m on the wrong Ref in’s and out’s on the deck??? Oy, life used to be so easy…

Thanks again!

J. Tad Newberry
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…it’s happening to me, too, though i see this thread is well over a year old. Just got a BMD HD Extreme card, dumped out four tapes the other night (to my 1800) without a hitch, not getting this error. I don’t know if the patch will do anything since it seems to be for AJA…

very frustrating. i’ve been using the Y loop (into Ref In, then out of Ref and back to Y in) for years with my old BMD card, though now Bob Zellin has me convinced to finally get a black burst generator…and i now have one on order, but need to drop some more tapes before the BBG gets here. any help with this problem would be dandy…

Thanks again!

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[J. Tad newberry]

Ha! Got you! No, Mr. Silly Pants, i did not say i dumped out those broadcast shows (CSI, Survivor, etc.), I simply asked if you have heard of them, and mentioned that i have heard of them. I suppose that would sound like i was implying i had dumped those shows…and so it was intended. Just another weak attempt at humor to keep this often-too-technical (but terribly informative and helpful!) forum a little spicier.

Now, speaking of “spice”, you have certainly added your bit of Oregano with your phallic deck innuendos…but they are probably quite appropriate in getting your point across, and i appreciate your willingness to keep schooling me in such things…

By the way, under your inspiration, i was listening to Sir Johnson (no, “Robert”, not referring back to the phallic things above) for the rest of the afternoon yesterday. It was a blessing.

Thanks again!

Oh, did you happen to catch my other post last night that my output monitor picture went to black and white again last night??? (serious here now…) i had turned off my Beta deck (while still in FCP), turned it back on, and my color and sync were gone. Trashed the prefs, restarted, no change. Trashed the prefs, restarted…and color returned. Maybe (okay, now back to levity) the spirit of Mr. R Johnson and his meeting at the Crossroads has infected my system?

Thanks again!

J. Tad Newberry
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[J. Tad newberry]

So after a full day (well, almost) of dandy editing with nice color pictures on my monitor, i turned off my UVW-1800 deck, and when i turned it back on, i got ye olde black and white (and a bit jumbled) monitor pix again! Trashed FCP prefs, restarted, no change. This is very strange. I would call BMD tech support, but i don’t think such a thing exists…especially on the weekends. Very very weird.

Thanks again!

J. Tad Newberry
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[J. Tad newberry]

ah! i wasn’t going to respond (at least, not as quickly) until i read your p.s. and Robert Johnson. AMEN, and again i say, “AMEN!” I do believe Johnson might have been resurrected in Keb Mo…but i can’t be sure of it.

On to more technical stuff, and not arguing, just trying to learn these new ways of you modern people. I’m a simple cave man, and i know not all of your ways. When you said, “The method you have been using (a composite video signal from your camera) works perfectly fine, but you should hit your Beta 1800 first, loop out of it, and go into your Blackmagic or Kona card,” you confused me. And if Petty’s “loop method” actually works (which it does), i don’t see the real need for an additional black generator. I have dumped out dozens of broadcast television shows (maybe you’ve heard of “CSI”, “Survivor”, and the “NBC Nightly Report”? well, i’ve heard of them, too) with the loop through (though not using my camera), and if ye olde method works perfectly fine why the need to generate additional blackness? (NOT implying that black is bad or anything…)

Thanks again!

J. Tad Newberry
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[J. Tad newberry]

Uncle Bob (i’ve heard about you!),

Thank you for the chastisement. You are exactly right, and i have surprised myself, how i have gotten along in this nutty industry without a black generator. Though my parents are Caucasian, i DO remember pleading with them as a child for a brother or sister of another color. I had hoped for black sibling, they would always respond, “What do you think we are? Black generators?” I would go into my room and sulk, knowing they were right….but something inside kept nagging at me. I KNOW i need a black generator, and if my parents aren’t it, then where shall i find one?

Alas, Uncle Bob has shown up and shown me the light! : ) My stomach is growling, but it’s all for a higher good. I shall obtain absolute blackness in my system soon and very soon. But here’s the really weird thing (and it’s ALL true), i haven’t turned my camera on (my current “BBG”, as it were) today or yesterday, and somehow getting “perfect” sync through my system! It is still hooked up to the Ref In on the capture card, and then the Y in (to my deck) is still looped into the Ref in (on the deck). I have no idea why this is working…but i am now seeking counseling from my priest.

(in case it wasn’t apparent, i wrote the first paragraph in jest, actually admiring the way you chastised me. it’s all good. thanks!

Thanks again!

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[J. Tad newberry]

Thanks for the input Herb. It’s a little sad how some of these threads end up getting taken over by bickering, so your post was appreciated even more this morning!

What’s really baffling me is that the old “Y deck input looped to the ref in” worked with my last BMD card, but doesn’t want work with this card. I was really hoping the loop would work so as to safe the additional expense (which i do realize is not much, when figuring all the time it would’ve saved me so far!), but also one more thing to plug in, and one more source of heat in the cave…er, uh, the “editing suite”.

Thanks again!

J. Tad Newberry
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[J. Tad newberry]

finally ouputted (4) Beta masters last night! ye haw! ended up pulling out Betacam CAMERA and running the video out of it to the ref in on the deck for sync. for some reason this time the loop thing wasn’t working. any hoo, this set up allowed me to finish, played back the tapes and they look great. the only hitch now is (other than my gigantic boat anchor of a camera on the floor!) is that “non std ref” will occaisionally flash across the deck’s screen, though it keeps chugging away. i know, i know…get a black burst generator, but then i always end up hearing of a solution where i don’t need it.

Thanks again!

J. Tad Newberry
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