John Rofrano
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[Chris Wynn] ” I notice that my Timeline lags during multiple preview settings. Sometimes even in draft mode. I have no idea what it can be, & have even went as far as thinking about downgrading GPU’s to help benefit this issue.”
First make sure that your project settings match your footage. Vegas Pro will conform on-the-fly so you don’t want it converting every frame if it doesn’t need to. Keeping your project at the same resolution as your source footage will give you the best playback performance.
Downgrading your GPU is the worst thing that you could do. Vegas Pro fully supports your AMD Radeon R9 380 for timeline preview. When people say that it only supports older GPUs, they are talking purely about encoding while rendering. It has nothing to do with timeline playback. Vegas Pro handles all of the timeline playback with OpenCL taking advantage of whatever GPU you have. So getting a slower GPU will just hurt your performance.
[Chris Wynn] “My computer is not the best, but it’s pretty legit as it can handle 4K editing/playing in Adobe premiere just fine.”
That should tell you something right there… the problem is not your computer and definitely not your GPU… the problem is that Sony (and now MAGIX) recommends a minimum of 8-cores for 4K work. Could this be becasue they knew that their GPU support wasn’t going to cut it with 4K? I don’t know but your 4-core has 1/2 the CPU power that is recommended for working in 4K with Vegas Pro.
If Premiere Pro is performing well for you with 4K and Vegas Pro is not, then the problem is Vegas Pro NOT your computer. You have to decide what software you want to use. MAGIX needs to decide how much longer they can ignore that their GPU support is not as good as other NLEs.
One thing that you can try is to move to a Proxy workflow where you let Vegas Pro render low res files to edit and then switch back to the original files to render. It’s more work and takes longer but it might be your only solution and is built into Vegas Pro as an option.
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[Shane Ross] “If they can remove a pro feature to make it smaller, they will. They aren’t aiming at high end video production anymore. They only care about their ecosystem.”
That’s what boggles my mind. I mean no one is complaining that their MacBook Pro isn’t thin enough and everyone complains about having to cary around dongles and yet they continue to remove important ports like USB and camera cards to make it thinner which no one wants. Who are they designing for? Clearly not the Pro market. 🙁
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[Noah Kadner] “That design is still an issue if you want to add any cards besides GPUs… I’d take a huge breadbox.”
Agreed. That’s why I still have my big cheese grater.
But do you even need other cards? PCI Express (PCIe) is 12 years old! Preceded by PCI, EISA, & ISA. Maybe it’s time for a change? Maybe Thunderbolt is that change?
[Andrew Kimery] “I don’t think having the two, desktop class GPUs would work in that design though.”
Yea, it certainly would not be as silent or cool as it is now with off-the-shelf GPU’s.
Maybe whats needed is for all computer manufacturers to acknowledge that having every component provide for it’s own cooling is absurd in 2017. What is needed is a standard design where cards can take advantage of the existing cooling properties of the case so that case manufacturers provide cooling and card manufacturers just provide cards. Then you could have a different card form factor with that prototype case that plugs into the backplane cooling system.
~jr
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[Fred Turner] “Nothing happens when I click on the markers, aside from being able to edit them.”
If you have Snapping (N) turned on, your mouse will snap to the markers as you skim the timeline. Then just use the Range (R) tool and snap to the first marker and press “I”, snap to the second marker and press “O” and then just read the duration of the range under the preview window. That’s you lap time.
~jr
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[Chris Babbitt] “For now, I would like to do some file conversions and encoding on the new machine. As the Pro codecs do not come installed on new machines, can I copy those from the old machine to the new, and, if so, where do I find them?”
How do you plan to do the file conversions? If you use Apple Compressor ($49) it comes with the Pro codecs. Problem solved.
~jr
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[Jason Tunbridge] “He has an animator who will create and provide the file – what sort of file type should I be asking for the animator to provide?”
The animator should provide you with a QuickTime Animation codec MOV file or QuickTime PNG codec MOV file. Obviously the first one (animation codec) was specifically designed for animation and will keep the lines and colors crisp and clean while preserving the Alpha Channel. The PNG codec is very similar and as Graham pointed out, they could just send you a PNG sequence that Vegas Pro will then ingest as a video. As long as the animator renders them in 32-bit with an Alpha Channel you should be fine. Also as Graham pointed out, they should already be set in the correct frame size for your project (HD or 4K) and frame rate.
~jr
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[Francois Blawat] “Are some of the Plug-Ins like Mayhem still for sale on SCS or will they be migrating over to MAGIX’s website?”
Yes, I believe they are still available from Sony and we are working on how to make them available by some other means. I don’t know if it will be through MAGIX or our own web site again but you can certainly still buy them from Sony for now.
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[Martin Szucs] “Is HDD the main source of the problem that slows down the program?”
Well… the entry level Mac mini uses sloooow 5400-RPM HDD’s not the faster 7200-RPM ones so it’s going to impact the performance negatively. The good news is that you can buy a faster 7200-RPM external USB 3.0 drive to edit on and it will actually be faster than your internal drive… but nothing like an SSD.
You want proof? ????
Here is the speed disk test of my 2012 MacBook Pro when it had an HDD:
Here is the speed test of the same 2012 MacBook Pro with a 3rd party SSD:
Which would you rather use? 😀~jr
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[László Kovács] “I would refine the sentence to use only that specific 3rd party codec, which is really needed.”
+1
If you need a codec, find out which one (there are many tools to help you do this) and only install that one codec.
Using a codec pack is like taking every pill in your medicine cabinet hoping one of them will cure you… one might… but the others could kill you. Don’t do it!
~jr
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[Ronald Davis] “I was wondering if anyone has an idea of how to isolate what is taking up the space. “
In Finder click on Applications and switch to the List view and sort by Size. That should show you which applications are taking up the most space.
~jr
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