[John Bolton]

Just wondering if this was solved as I don’t yet quite understand the sequence,

Anyway, do you mean something like this where you have a object in the Mask hole of the Main Image but also you want moving items on top of the Main image.. which seems to be what you are saying.. well it does to me ☺

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZYLYloJmIQ
It may not be anything like this but was just thinking…but

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[John Bolton]

Hi Allan

The Problem/ Challenge / Opportunity is the object difference between the background and the subject. haha
If I setup all the various parameters with Black and White, Levels, to get the Best clean Outline and then continue to do all the other settings including the Difference and Multiple Mask, Median, etc as If I was ready to see the end result and then Uncheck the Multiple Mask switch I get this which is the best I get with all the initial setting with levels, etc.. Here you can see the problem. No matter where I look at this in the whole timeline it is impossible to get a clean outline,, hence all the other issues and lots of adjustments and key frames…

Anyway was good for a challenge.. not sure if anyone else had a go.. haha

Regards

Roll on Green Screen…

[John Bolton]

Hi Allan

I have been playing with this for a while and after many variants of test the main problem is the lack of difference in colours between you and the background… ( in the nicest possible words ) and unfortunately without good lighting conditions it is impossible to get a clean outline of you from the background.

Doing various tests with Multiple Masks and zillions of Key frames it seems the easier way was not to use masks but Key frame LEVELS and MEDIAN.

As you can see the results are poor but if you don’t try then you will never know…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT9B0r67rds

Could not find a away to embed a video.. any clues?
Anyway….was interesting…

Regards

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[John Bolton]

Hi Pete.. I also found it works easier with NON text. As you say, it is a bit tricky but after some experimenting you can work out what affects the layers with the media you have added for the ” Behind ” requirement.

I also did two” Behind” layers just to see if it was possible and it sort of worked out OK.. The lighting on the Video Media is a bit critical but animation is a bit more controlled..

Anyway…Nice one

Regards

[John Bolton]

Hi Allan …Did you ever get yours working?

[John Bolton]

Ops I meant tracks 3 & 5 for the action…….but I guess you spotted that 🙂

[John Bolton]

Hi Allan, it’s a bit weird. You could also try my first test which was just use any Background picture for the background and then add a cut out object ( maybe a person ) to that background picture ( I used Photoshop ) and call it the Action picture

Then using those 2 pictures… track 2 for the basic Background and track 4 & 5 for the one you have added an object….see if you can get that to work. Don’t use and video media.

Also, if you can send me a snippet of the media you are using then I can also check it here

Regards

[John Bolton]

NO not like that at all.. What version of V15 are you using.. I am on 311.

it is not perfect as I just did a quick version in my PC room with no special lighting, and only took about 5 minutes so more fine tuning could of been done,,,,,,,,, etc

I could play with some more settings but just wanted to confirm it does work and I don’t have any quality media to have time to do it properly as have to do some more decorating for the ” Management” rather than play…. .. haha

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tgw8zlj7e19zs4n/my%20version.mpg?dl=0

Just rendered the timeline ( above link ) for you to show you it works ( sort of ) here on V15 311

Looks like you have an issue with the version you are using.

Maybe that’s why you are not getting the result you are trying to achieve.. ☺

Can you send me the media so I can try and replicate?

[John Bolton]

Hello Allan

I have just made another one with Live video. Bear in mind it is just in my PC room with no special lighting, etc, etc, I just turned around and used a cupboard as the back ground. ☺ but just thought that it gives you the various setting that I was using for it and shows it working.
Ideally you do need good lighting conditions for this to work properly…

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2a62sjcqyludnad/text.rar?dl=0

Unzip this RAR in to a folder and open the Veg with V15

Regards

John

[John Bolton]

Hello Allan

The quick test I carried out to see if it works was to just use any background picture – as Track 2

In Photoshop I added a picture to the background picture and used it as the Live Action – Track 3

I did not at this stage use any video as I just wanted to see how it works..

The part to get right was the Levels FX selection as like you the text was not behind. I then found out that in my case I had to move the Input End slider to 0.00 which is the same as the Input Start Slider.

Hope this help, if not I can send you a Veg file with the media

Regards