[Joe Mantaratz]

Unbelievable how you figured that one out John. I have tried many different methods with some moderate success but this looks promising.
Sans the info on what the particular functions do and how they are meant for SVP I wonder why the Boris tech I had numerous conversations with was unable
to point me in this direction. I even downloaded the trial version of Avid to get what I wanted but did not relish learning a new NLE just for this effect.

My suggestion to them was to simply make it part of Boris Red but your solution is just as good. Have yet to try it but I will tonight.

Thanks as always John for making life a bit easier for the work we do. Much appreciated….now about that Spell Checker??? 🙂

[Joe Mantaratz]

Had a hunch that was going to be the answer. I dont use docking very much and when I had dual monitors it was not an issue but is now. Think I will send and add this to the list of many to Sony.

Thanks John

[Joe Mantaratz]

Always talent that will find a way.

[Joe Mantaratz]

Yes I saw that but without a burned filmed FX the best you can come to it would be to use flash and perhaps also use color correction and keyframe the highlights to follow the flash. Glow FX might also give some lattitude, so you will just have to find what combo works for you without having the FX for it.

The FX happens so quickly I am unsure many would notice, except the editor of course. Best of everything

[Joe Mantaratz]

Vegas does not have a burn film effect as does Boris but you can certainly mimic this with the flash FX within Sony. It is a quick flash effect with a bit of color added to it. Play around with it and I am sure you can get pretty close. There is nothing really to entailed here.

[Joe Mantaratz]

I’m not sure how cut and dry it is in reality simply thinking from both persepctives. My thought is the stand alone Red should have all the features the plug in version has within the NLE. Why wouldn’t it? It doesn’t….

But since we are talking about different software companies I don’t see how they could ensure complete compatiblity across the board.
Sony has trouble within there own creations hence the constant new builds and I amsure Boris has similar issues. So like most companies the consumer becomes the beta (unpaid) testers. Microsoft is famous for that and for the most part so are the rest. Techs and programmers are expensive. So here we are.

All we can do is try and find some wort of work around and wait on them to address the problems. I agree with all you stated and wish there was an easier solution.

[Joe Mantaratz]

I realized after I had posted it that Boris does consider Wild Cards to be a particle FX. My mistake indeed.

I presented the same question to Boris as well and asked for a list of FX’S and their respective NLE’S wherein they were known to work without issue. They don’t have one simply because they did not test all the facets of every FX with all the known NLE’S their software works with. When I purchased Boris RED, and Boris BCC I wanted to be sure that all my needs were met and like yourself found a few problems with some of the FX’s that I really wanted to use.

My system is a home built powerhouse and yet I have had issues with SVP 12 crashing with some of the FX’S. Also there is a known problem with RED’S installer that is supposed to be addressed in the next update. The issue has to do with SVP not seeing the plug ins and the sequence for the priority of what gets installed first.

So I have downloaded the trial version of AVID to get make this work but was not happy with learning a new NLE just to have it done.
For me the simplest solution is to include it in the RED stand alone version. Of course I would prefer to not have to work outside of SVP but there is nothing I can do about it.

Really the issue is not with Boris but with Sony as it is their software that does not allow all the features the FX requires.

[Joe Mantaratz]

Wild Cards is not a particle effect so perhaps you meant another effect. If you are referring to Wild Cards I can tell you from my communications with Boris Tech that it does not work as described in the AVID tutorials due to limitations within Sony Vegas. They are considering to make it function within Boris Red and also working with Sony for a solution.

There are many FX’S that do not work across all NLE’S in the same manner as shown in a particular tutorial. I’ve spent a lot of time trying to figure out a work around. Marginal success with that and still on going so I can’t share it at this juncture.

We can keep making contact with both companies and hope for a solution. My bet is Boris will include it in withing RED.

[Joe Mantaratz]

Somebody somewhere will figure out how to bypass their system to make it run stand alone then they will pass it onto the world. Then what will they do? How’s the new model working for them? I was unaware that you are required to access the internet once a month to keep it active but that sure sounds like an open door to being hacked.

Now I don’t support any of that and I have no problem paying for a quality product that I actually own forever. Now it they were aiming at the student market and those who cannot afford to but it outright then why not provide the installment plan?

Again I say an editors boycott with communications with Adobe and forums like this one is in order. Maybe they will get the message and make changes. Or perhaps there is something else coming down the pike we are unaware of yet.

[Joe Mantaratz]

Back in the coal mining early days laborers were mandated to buy their shovels from the company at a ridculous amount.

So ADOBE is now the slave masters but who is really at fault here? HMM…

I’ve been against anything Cloud since it’s inception and this is just an extension of that concept. So let me see, no internet I can’t work, dont own it. can’t control future costs, makes wonderful sense to me.

People are chugging the KOOL AID quite happily. A boycott by all editors is most certainly in order. Unless you want some Kool Aid I can sell you some, of course forever at a price I alone determine.

DRINK UP!!!!