Jerry Hofmann
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We’re messin’ with the tread’s intent, but one last thing about tracks vs roles.
You can export a set of audio files any way you want to with X. It just doesn’t use tracks to do this, but the end result given to a mixer can be the same if you know how to do it, and that isn’t hard to learn either… OMF will be there before you know it, but there’s a work around for that too of course now. (third party software).
I understand where you’re coming from, but still believe that FCP X is faster than anybody’s NLE. It’s the only NLE that is MAC OS Native code. I’m a Mac, I’ll likely never be a PC. So there ya have it. The future of the platform is going to blow your mind… and it’s development time will be considerably faster than any body else’s because Apple writes natively for only one OS, which we all agree is currently the better OS for all round computing.
Here’s a read: https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/344/12947
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
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LOL!!! I was hoping you’d respond.
The automation I speak of is the auto color, fix audio problem stuff get rid of unwanted bkg sound and more… it’s real and it works most of the time. Facial recognition is right around the corner with it I’ll wager. Imagine logging a feature where you tag a CU as a certain character, a Medium and a wide… Then as X analyses this for every single clip, it tags the shots of this character FOR YOU… it’s already doing CU’s , Singles, two shots, and group shots. The facial recognition Apple already owns and uses in the stills softwares. Ya have to hold back something for the next generation of software or you go broke.
Premiere has tracks. So yesterday. (sorry, couldn’t resist). I love the magnetic timeline. it’s a whole leap ahead once you understand it. Why shouldn’t audio be connected always to video? It should! Track’s only real reason for existence is the ability to be able to export them separately. X’s “roles” does the same thing, and then some.
Yes, my dearest friend, you do sound like an old fart telling the youngin’s to get off the lawn. I love you anyway.
When Avid hit the scene in Hollywood about 23 years ago, All the editors working on TV and Film said that flatbed and Moviolas were not only faster, but the only way to edit. I know. I was there. I owned a Composer 1 in April of 1989. By ’97 or so, you’d think the world got turned upside down in LA. Flatbeds were dying daily, telecine became a seriously great business… Because the younin’s didn’t leave the yard… it was the new editors on the scene that got it, and got the work. I think there might be 2 flatbeds in LA today or so… for those are afraid of leaks and bootlegs.
You’ve preconceived notions about X it I believe. It’s not the same software most pro’s dismissed a year ago. I’ll be the first one to say it’s not for every job. and have said so in this thread more than one time… however if it is OK for what you need to deliver, it’s a done deal man. What it does do that FCP 7 did, it does better. It doesn’t do things that some people need today, but most users simply don’t.
Apple has sold more copies of X than it did of Studio 3. This is more than 3 million copies. This says something. This says that there are adoptions going on all over the place, and not being talked much about. It’s not about what the 10,000 need. It’s about what the 4 million need. I really don’t think there’s more than about 250,000 – 500,000 full time professional editors in the world. The rest of those 2.7 million people? They use it, most often professionally. But not full time. No matter what the platform, this is the entire market world wide I’m guessing. There are users in our industry that aren’t full time editors all over the place… why? it’s easy to learn, easy to rough cut with, and that’s all they NEED for example. Or simply viewing on the set, among probably a lot more folks of this type.
That said, I recon there are 90% of the “editor full time” professionals out there that this software will accomplish the delivery of their work. Don’t forget that 90% of the money spent on moving pictures in any format is not spent on entertainment. You know this is true, we see it in the booths we work in at NAB.
Let’s get really real here. If you are making your living doing this, why on earth wouldn’t you run Adobe, Avid, Apple, all on the same machine, and simply pick the the NLE that will speed you up the most on the particular task at hand. Heck, this can be done for less than $10,000. Hopefully, the best NLE for any given task will NOT be the same NLE from year to year… this means they are all innovating… right?
That Avid I brought up earlier only produced a CMX list to take to an online room that cost over a million bucks to build. I’ve spent many a day spending $10,000 in those rooms in those years for a single set of commercials. That Avid cost $64,000 and if you were out of sync, you couldn’t tell because the picture quality in a medium/long shot wasn’t good enough to tell.. LOL…
So it’s pretty silly to get too out of sorts with any of this area of discussion isn’t it?
Any way you look at it, if you can produce a finished show in faster time, you’ll end up making more money in the long haul. From any pro’s perspective whither you edit features or weddings or anything else for wages… right?
I’m not familiar with Adobe’s latest stuff, but it too sounds nice. But tracks? NAH no need, no want anymore. Magnetic timeline is much much faster to edit with. MUCH… learn it, come take one of my classes! I’ll give you a discount, and put you up. I’ll even trade even if you train me on Adobe! Nice room I have just waiting for you!
Jerry
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That’s true from my experience. Any i7 machine is fast enough to make you feel good. It’s smooth on the 12 core though too. Graphic cards matter, as does having enough RAM. 7 topped out at less than 3 gigs. X will use all ya can throw at it. For really long form you’d probably want 32gigs at least. it’s another reason it’s fast, it uses all the fastest memory in anybody’s system…
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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I think the best upgrade you can buy in a computer is choosing an SSD for a start up disk.
Jerry
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Pretty simple.
1. You can edit before you’ve complete the import process.
2. You don’t wait on a render to see a preview.
3. The error messages like ‘”clip collisions” are non existant.
4. No transcoding of anything before you start editing. DSLRs anyone?
5. Mixing codecs never slows performance of playback.
6. Smart collections make organization nearly automatic.
7. Renders, if you have to wait on them at all, are not quite twice as fast. 64 bit app…
8. Auditions make the trial and error workflows about 5 times faster.
9. Multicam setup is much faster. Syncing clips is nigh on instant even with a camera which starts and stops all the time.
10. the automatons of the clip analysis save a ton of time, and are far more accurate than the few that existed before.
11. I see the same student learn both X & 7. To a tee, every single one reports FCP X is easier to learn, and gets the job done faster. These are people with no preconceptions at all. I’ve taught about 150 of these people now they all say it’s easier to do the same edit. This is because it’s fewer keystrokes to accomplish the same result. And this is why a lot of pros are scared to death of it. If any one can use it, they believe their jobs are at risk.
Need more?
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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Ther are jobs it’s not right for no doubt. But with each update those jobs get fewer. For a first release its very exciting.
I don’t miss tracks at all. Everything they accomplished X can accomplish.
Jerry
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After using FCP X for a few months, whenever I have to go back to 7, it feels a ton slower. Because It IS slower. X is the fastest NLE in the world, period. If you can use it for the task at hand you’ll do yourself a favor.
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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Try exporting the sequence as a self contained movie before you compress. And the check that export…
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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If your done an erase and reinstall of your startup disk, and it still is unstable, might have a hardware problem, and the first thing to checkout are your RAM chIps.
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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No problem editing HD or even 2k on a non-retina Mac.
What you give up is desktop space. Not that big a deal, but you don’t ever get pixel for pixel display of the video with it. You’ll see a big loss actually between your current 17″ and a non retina with this loss of desktop space.
Why would you not want a Retina?
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.