Jeremy Garchow
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Try deleting your cache for that Project.
Then make a new Project and copy/paste your current one on to the new one
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[David Lawrence] “Hopefully Catalina will be fixed by then, but if not, what is the “server performance mode” setting tweak for future reference?”
To be honest, I’d wait to see if it happens. Every manufacturer seems to handle it kind of differently. There also seems to be a way to set things up in nvram (semi-temporarily). If you get a new system, I’d imagine it comes with support, and you can bug them about the best way to go about it.
When and if you get the system, just hit me up directly, editstation at the gmails dot com and I can point you to some other resources as it’s a weird one to just kinda throw out there and post as I wouldn’t want to be responsible to any weirdness to people’s machines! ☺
Here’s a public write up about it from SNS storage: https://www.studionetworksolutions.com/catalina-smb-video-nas-server/
Jeremy
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[David Lawrence] “Will writing to these drives be a problem?”
Definitely not, you should be good, David. The problem is specific to network shares over 10Gb and SMB or NFS and an obscured setting called “server performance mode”.
TB3 or USB-C or most any other direct connect drive will be just fine!
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For the record, I’ve been fine with Catalina on new hardware. The new hardware consistently impresses me. I have not installed Catalina on any older machines yet, but if that time comes, I would do a clean install. When you look at the disk and file structures of Catalina, something that isn’t really talked about, but it’s a big shift and a clean install would definitely be recommended.
[David Lawrence] “All in all I’ve been totally happy with Catalina, but I haven’t tried anything aggressive with shared storage yet.”
There’s some serious (but fixable) 10Gb issues when the pipe is under heavy load. What kind of storage do you have?
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It’s says this on the tin:
“ Our software is compatible with most desktop operating systems including Windows, MacOS and Linux®. No need to install any extra drivers or app updates for supported operating systems.”
Doesn’t that mean this works with macOS even if the central server is HP?
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If I relink one file at a time, everything works. I can relink MXF to mov/mp4. So fcpx has the capability, but there seems to be a bug in the batch relink as it doesn’t allow it.
What’s weird is that fcpx does not seem to a have problem relinking different extensions. I can make fcpx generates proxies from Mxf material, and that relinks using the fcpx proxy workflow.
I can relink r3d to mov and back all day.
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Anything other than highly compressed h264 mov or mp4 would be impractical for a true cloud workflow for us as projects are routinely many TBs of material.
Right now, my only issue is not being able to batch relink Mxf master files to h264 proxies in fcpx. I can do it one by one, but not in a batch very easily. I can get a batch to work with some super high level trickery that is almost impractical due to the amount of files and errors it might create. But in a pinch, we can do it (either one by one or a tricky batch) and everyone stays home.
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[Bob Zelin] “and you had FULL BANDWIDTH to your server (because you are controlling the computer in your office) – is that enough ?”
I find that trying to actually edit through the internet is too hard, so no, it’s not enough. Maybe with a dedicated system like BeBop (but if TeamViewer is expensive, then BeBop is super expensive).
[Bob Zelin] ” If you had full remote access to your powerful computer at work, you could run Adobe Media Encoder, EditReady or Apple Compressor (or just upload right there to Frame I/O) – but is that enough ? “
I think this is the most practical. You have to make REALLY light proxies though. And the trouble with any software encoders at the moment (like compress and media encoder) is that you can’t compress the audio along with the video and keep the same number of channels. For instance, we edit with a lot of MXF files with 8 channels of audio. If I try to cook those in Compressor or Media encoder, in order to get 8 channels out, you need to set the audio to “passthrough” which keeps it uncompressed which keeps the files sizes big.
The SNS EVO server will compress the audio along with the video, so the file sizes are very small. I can get very light, 8 channel, h264 file. The 50+TB on our server now is about 350GB of proxy files. Even if I had to upload the entire server, (which I don’t yet), I could do it.
[Bob Zelin] “AND if NO ONE is in the streets, and NO ONE is in the office, couldn’t ONE person go into the office to add that new media to the main server ? I mean – there is no one else in there for them to get sick from ? “
That would be my plan too. One trip to and from the office, plug in a hard drive, set it to transfer, and do the rest remotely and extremely low risk of contamination.
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[Oliver Peters] “Good luck with that. The fallacy of this approach is that you still have to have a manned facility somewhere that does not run on auto-pilot.
“Yes, the footage has to come from somewhere.
There’s lots of ways to attach the storage to cloud services. I can have the footage download to the server, for instance, and then the EVO creates really low weight proxies.
I can then quickly organize a Library over TeamViewer, run Nomad on the appropriate media, and then send the Library and the Proxy files up to the cloud and download at home.
The issues I am running in to is that FCPX won’t relink an MXF original file to a .mov or .mp4 proxy. There’s a way to trick FCPX in to relinking, but it’s super involved.
But if all your media is .mov from the jump, this works today, right now without much fuss.
I am still working on trying to get this to work with MXF, but FCPX is the limiting factor. If we were using Premiere, this would be working.
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[Oliver Peters] “Still think we can move everyone to the cloud for business? Especially our business?”
Yes.
There are much less of us, then there are Netflix users. ;D
And no, working from the cloud is going to be slow and difficult.
I am trying to work with SNS’s Nomad solution all though TeamViewer from the home to the mothership. We need better relinking in FCPX, like today, as a special coronavirus pandemic update/what-was-going-to-be-a-NAB-release release.
This is literally one time that I am envious of Adobe Premiere.