[Jeremy Cummings]

Well, I’m not a Sony troll, but I’m glad you have a good imagination, since that’s what it takes to make it seem like your camera can shoot a better image than a native 1920 x 1080 chip. (Couldn’t resist)

Sorry, you are right, I did come off flailing away. I figured all of the stats are here in the forums.

1/2 inch vs 1/3 inch
1920×1080 (Rolling Shutter) vs 960×540 (offset)
35 mbps vs 100 mbps
whatever…

Your standpoint is really based on color-space, work-flow, lack of rolling shutter, larger throughput in codec and reliability.

I know I love the way the Panasonic deals with color. I like the lens it comes with. The media cards are pretty much the same in price, even though they are both extremely overpriced.

I think I was really upset when I did look in the monitor and saw the two in comparison; that the Sony obliterated the image of the HVX. Truthfully, I’m not a Sony troll, if anything I’m a Red Cam troll. I really hate all the camera manufactures besides Red, since Red really tries to give the consumer what they want, for a decent price. Everyone can compete to make a better camera. I can get an 8GB flash memory card for under $100.

But that is really off topic, I was just wondering why people were still talking about these cameras. The Panasonic is just an old camera that will die out soon, when other companies realize they need to make what the consumer is really asking for. (8k rez of course)

The Sony codec is newer, it really can handle it’s bandwidth, it doesn’t need 100mbps to get a better image, yes there is slight banding and some artifacts here and there, but every camera has flaws. I’m still trying to figure out why you think a crappy image through an old codec will make a better image.

True your offset pixel method can help uprezing a 960×540 image to a near perfect 720p image, but c’mon, 1140 x 1080. Zoom in, you’ll find it is just a blurry mess. When I do another green screen, I’m going to have to trust longer GOP’s over a “Super SD” image.

Yes your camera was king of the compact cheaper cameras. If I wanted to shoot a movie, I’d get a 35mm adapter, some nice 35mm lens and your HVX, but that has all changed (and will always be changing). For the Sony, when you convert to a 35mm adapter, the better low light kicks in on the EX1 and your images get the proper color-space your looking for and great look of the lens, instead of that cold blown out look that Sony’s are known for.

https://www.philipbloom.co.uk/Philip_Bloom/Letus_35mm.html

So, to be clear, all I’m saying is that, for my purposes, being able to shoot commercial video one day, shoot some green screen the next, then turn around and want to shoot a movie, I just can’t trust the Panasonic anymore.

Sorry, yes, I’m merely just going off the way the image looks and the resolution it is capable of. If you want to come out with a new camera, please do, but in the mean time, I’m gonna have to say the EX1’s image is a startling improvement over the HVX, due to the quality of the resolution, no matter what you think of the codec.

And of course I don’t think the EX1 can top the Red, I just said it has a pretty good image in comparison. I do appreciate the banter though and I’m glad to see that you stand beside your product.

(If anything buy the Scarlet, from Red, when it comes out.)

[Jeremy Cummings]

Ok, I believe some of you are seriously misled. The EX1 is the only camera to go with out of the options given. Panasonic’s HD camera’s sensor is just that above a SD sensor. That’s right! Their sensor is so crappy, it shouldn’t even be called HD. The only way they were getting away with selling their cams is off of the rep of the DVX and it’s color space.

I’ve seen direct comparisons of the Panasonic and the EX1 and it is so unbelievable that people actually used blown up downgraded HD images for so long. I’ve been shooting on FX1’s, V1U’s and Z1U’s and all of these cameras are horrible as well when stacked to the EX1.

First off, the image sensor is actually 3 1/2 inch true 1920 x 1080 p sensors. That kills everything in it’s class, even the Canons.

Everything else is 1/3 or 1/4 inch less than 1440×1080. The image is then up resd to 1440×1080. Panasonic has the lowest resolution out of all of them.

The bigger the lens, the better your image. Just look at why people want to convert to 35mm all the time. Smaller DOF.

Tape is going out anyway. I hate tape dumps. Even though you can do that on a Panasonic, you might as well saw off your leg and beat yourself up with it.

Truthfully, I’ve seen the high end cine altas in side by side comparisons with the ex1 and that thing can hold it’s own. My friend did a test with them and his red cam. That’s right after he showed me the side by sides of the ex1 and the Panasonic. I never knew what the difference was between true HD footage and the crap HDV and Panasonic puts out. Now every time I edit I don’t look at my footage the same way. I can totally see how fuzzy it is.

To wrap up, trust me, you do not want anything to do with Panasonic. They are the cheap bastards in this scenario and they just use cheap tricks to get you to buy their gear. The ex1 was created to compete with the red cam sales and in my opinion, they are doing a great job.

The only next contender would be canon. If they cam out with a similar camera, that can use their Dig SLR lenses, then it would be a no brainer.