[Ismael De diego]

Hi Mads,

Thanks for taking time to look into this.

I checked the original DPX file’s Metadata, and they are blank under Tape Name. I guess it wasn’t added during the scan, as a result that information is not available to conform the EDL properly.

No embedded Tape Name on the DPX file’s Metadata is an issue I wasn’t aware of, thanks for pointing that out!

I was trying to import the individual DPX frames as a work around to that problem. I’m new to this DPX workflow, now I think it was a mistake.

I’m working on a short piece made in 16mm film, that was scanned in a 4k DPX format. Our intention is to print back to film, so we need to circle back to the original DPX files for grading and printing.

The grade will be done in DaVinci Resolve at the film laboratories so I’m not sure how much room we have in the conform for an XML or similar options.

I think this could be solve by naming the original DPX file’s “Tape Name” Metadata. Do you know a way to do this? This really looks to be the issue for the EDL conform.

Again, thanks so much for answering my post!

Best


Ismael

[Ismael De diego]

[Ann Bens] “by Ann Bens
on Jun 9, 2017 at 5:49:17 pm

Make sure the track is in clip mode.”

How can I check if it is in clip mode ?
I have the same problem, doesn’t allow me to apply any transition

[Ismael De diego]

Re-reading my original post I think it wasn’t that complete, the question looked a lot like the common disorientation from FCP and Premiere users and that turn out to be very confusing.

As a bit of background, Ive been a freelance documentary editor for a few years now. The productions i work with usually tend to follow a large amount of characters and plot and dramatic storytelling are defined in the editing room, creating the storyline while working with 300+ hour footage can be extremely time consuming.

That said i think you’ll understand my appreciation for intuitive interface on NLE system and why i profoundly admire when programers decide to allow user friendly solutions to their applications. It gives me a lot of room to focus on my main task.

If one function works in one instance, like at desktop level, why not adding a drag&drop function to it ? Hiring a person to manually copy paste 1000 folder names from windows to AVID seems preposterous and a unnecessary weight on the budget, most of the time i try to solve this kind of things by my self.

[John Pale] ”
What I am gleaning here is that you are more interested in replicating the folder structure as a means of visually organizing the project, not really related to how Avid is internally managing the media.”

Exactly! the project is not only “visually organized”. Director, photographer, producer, all of those people relate to this organization. The production house we are working with holds a copy of the same Hard Drive containing all footage and they also relate to this directory structure and use it as a guide for continuously incoming footage. It makes my work a lot easier to navigate the same map.

[John Pale] “I think what you want is technically possible, but in 20 years of working in Avid, I’ve never seen anyone actually attempt it. Avid really isn’t meant to work that way. It works best when you do your organization within its own “universe”.”

Could you give me an example on a different way to organize 300+ h footage in the Avid universe ?

[John Pale] “I understand your frustration in getting your meaning across, but Shane was really trying to help you here, and I agree with his overall assesment. He has a ton of experience with Avid and other NLEs and donates much of his time assisting people on this and other forums. He doesn’t deserve to be attacked just because you don’t like or agree with his answers.”

I deeply regret if i offended anyone, i have great admiration for the amazing help you guys offer to this community and I’ve been beneficiary of your deep knowledge in may occasions . It was frustrating to see my topic drifting away over and over, sorry if it looked like an attack i was intended to be a profound advice. My apologies to Shane.

[Glenn Sakatch] “Yes, and as this discussion went on, it became less clear to me if he was trying to automate the bins as well, or just the folders.”

Many many thanks for your helpful advice, i was mainly trying to avoid the heinous task of coping pasting folder names, but every time an opportunity to automate pops up i like to give it a try. Can you think on any way to automate bin creation ?

[Glenn Sakatch] ” But linking to media, one folder at a time can be painfully slow.”

Terribly painful, but as i have to watch every inch of footage i can also slowly acquire the footage as i go along. Most of the time i encode on the night and watch and log on working hours.

[Ismael De diego]

By the way, this is how I got the empty copy of the folder structure.
In Windows go to command and type or copy:

robocopy “C:\Your Folder” “C:\New Folder” /e /xf *

/t = Copies the subdirectory structure, but not the files
/e = Copies subdirectories, including any empty ones

That way you are sure not files got into those folders, was a pretty simple thing to do after all

[Ismael De diego]

This is really really helpful, thank a lot John!!

Bin can be inside folders right ? And folders can be organized into an folder structure, so if I have a bin inside each folder I retain the organization by date/event and keep inside the boundaries of AVID.

Is a feature documentary, footage come by the ton and from a cell phone to 35mm, it’s almost always like that. Having 200 bins with 100 clips each, scattered in the project Window doesn’t look practical.

Does AVID have an aproach for organizing bins other than folders ? It would be great is there exists a tool for such a thing

[Ismael De diego]

Jeez man, you don’t seem to understand the question at all, still struggling to keep on the subject after almost 5 posts. NO CLIPS, NO MEDIA, just interested in folders metadata.
And for your info, folder structure is metadata, here are some definitions for you.

“Metadata is data that describes other data. Meta is a prefix that in most information technology usages means “an underlying definition or description.” Metadata summarizes basic information about data, which can make finding and working with particular instances of data easier.”

If you don’t know the answer one good choice is to remain silent.

[Ismael De diego]

I wonder what happens if I copy the empty folders into the project folder in Windows Explorer, will it then show those folders inside AVID ? Can’t wait to try that tomorrow, that would be a fantastic feature.

[Ismael De diego]

This is certainly an AVID bummer for my workflow, and expensive on the production since they have to pay someone else for a long time. They will hire the data manager, but I’m still interested in any work around and I bet the data manager knows how to do it. Is just meta-data we are talking after all, no codification or programming involved.

[Ismael De diego]

That sound like a terrible waste if time, or a data manager/assistant kind of job wich will make hiring someone everything slower, a lot slower. There has to be a workaround for such a simple task, a script or a plug-in, an exchange file through another editing system, it must be a way.

[Ismael De diego]

The photographer and director made the original organization. And yes, I will manually create the bin, my main interest is the date/event organization that exist already, it will take me forever just to copy the name info and pasting it into AVID project folders, it has to be a faster way.