[Hope Holmesby]

Shane…this is great…really great…thanks so much

also found that when i set the playback to ‘unlimited’ in the ‘system settings’ ‘playback control’, it is now playing even w the red lines including audio.
I attribute this great success to you helping me, both of you.

See settings used below (in case someone else wonders)

Set like this – Summary:

System Settings:playback control:
– RT: unlimited –
– (Play Base Layer Only (if render needed)
– then the default for everything else meaning all the rest of the boxes checked etc

Sequence Settings:
– all were just hi / default settings

RT Popup Menu:
– Play Base Layer Only

Note:
– no options for setting above in the RT pop-up menu due to the use of a custom preset.
– Opt P for playing w no audio (even w red lines)

Roger…when i use a standard preset i get all those great options, just like you say, for the RT popup….I tested it. You were absolutely right. (Yes, have QT 7 installed)

Thank you both so much….what a great break-thru this is for me. Opt P for playing w no audio, and ‘RT-unlimited’ to play w audio…at least in this case it is working
Warmly and Yippee,
Hope

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[Hope Holmesby]

Roger,

Thanks so much for this info too.

I was, as mentioned above, really just trying to

1. set things easily
2. go back to a Shangri-La time when i could have red lines but still see all the frames when I hit the space bar to play the timeline.

Have no idea what settings I must have had then….seems to have been beginners luck.

Any idea on that?

Warmly,
Hope

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[Hope Holmesby]

Shane, thank you for answering….

You are absolutely right…I am using a custom setup, not one of the FCP presets.
Thank you for taking the time to answer this….very kind of you.

I was researching more, and found a thread which i just posted too..

I did find that if I go into:

– fcp System Preferences : playback control tab,
– current sequence settings: Render Control tab.

I could change things.

Was hoping it could be easier than that….sigh

somehow in the past, I was able, even w many red lines showing in the timeline, to playback with everything showing – no red or blue unrendered frames.
Not sure how i was able to achieve that.

Thanks again,
Warmly, Hope

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[Hope Holmesby]

OK, answered my own question:

“unless you’re using a supported Final Cut Pro native preset (there are a ton of them and there’s rarely a reason you’d be working outside on of them) then you’re not going to get the RT options that you’re looking for.”

from this thread:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/961362

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Hi Lucy…
This is off topic, but there are rarely any ladys on this forum, so I thot I would say Hi. I tried to find a way to contact you not thru this thread, but could not.
Just wondering what kinds of things you do w AfterEffects? I realize i dont have any contact info here either…
Warmly,
Hope

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hi Walter…thank you for taking the time to explain all this

Yes, I see what you mean now…

I did do a test as mentioned and found just what you are saying.
I will continue to refine this situation. So far, the last setting seen above are working nicely for me.

Walter: Remember that your goal is the fastest render time possible; it is not necessarily maximum CPU usage or maximum RAM usage. Being too aggressive with your settings (i.e., scheduling too many CPUs or giving background processes too little RAM) may actually slow down your renders while giving you nice high utilization numbers.

So even tho one may be using more ram, if the render time is not speeded up, then one has to think again how to allocate. Ok, I see now.
I guess, like you said, it depends on what kind of usual rendering one does (filters, file sizes etc) that would determine how the resources available would be used / allocated: Ram, background render processes (aeselflink – in mac).

I noticed that when i have the 8 cores assigned to render, that then I have those 8 listings of aeselflink in the Activity Monitor. It was fun and exciting to see and understand that….and to see how much memory they each were using.

It actually was not so much. The most i saw them use was about 150 MB, and as you can see, they are currently assigned .75 GB, so they still had along way to go. I suspect that I will have to up that amount periodically. I think AE suggest us set the background processes to at least 2 GM….cant remember.

I appreciate so much you taking the time to explain this all to me. I finally kinda get it….after all these years of AE. Started in 2000 with AE3…oh boy. I dont use it all the time, as do print and webwork too, but it is my favorite program to use. Would like to do 3D.

Do you use any 3D programs integrating w AE?

Thanks again Walter…really appreciate.
Warmly,
Hope

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Hi…
Thanks again for taking the time to explain these things. So appreciate.

Success at last: instead of the use of only 5GB of ram of my 16BG, it went up to 11.44 GB of ram used: (now if I can get it up to 13 or 12+ that would really make me happy)

the category: ‘Ram reserved for other applications’ it is not possible tin CS5.5 AE that I am using make that any less than 3GB. So AE doest not let you take all ram for AE.

As you suggested, ran some render tests:

on a 5 sec section did this:

– no windows open for finder
– all apps closed
– only AE running
– cache emptied / purged
– render taking place w only the render window open

plus these settings:

As one can see, there are now actually 8 cps used. Had to fiddle w the setting until that great number popped up. It seems to have to do w the ‘ram allocation per bkg cpu’

Question: ‘Ram reserved for other applications’ refers to things that AE is NOT doing. Other applications or processes that the machine is doing not related to rendering. Is that correct?

It also seems that when trying to preview in the timeline, the amount allocated above to ‘Ram allocation to background cps’ is just too little for previewing howver. The preview will not even work…sigh.. But only had to boost it to 1GB to get the preview working.

I am reading now, in this page, about all this…
https://helpx.adobe.com/after-effects/using/memory-storage.html

you practically quote word for word from it…HIGHLY impressive.
Thanks again
Any thots?

Warmly, Hope

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hi all…

….coming in late on this discussion.
hope you dont mind….

I have a similar thing…need dual mono output.

I have, as you all suggest, made all the tracks to pan 0 by marque selecting them all, and Modify-Audio-Pan Center.
I have audio on 5 tracks altogether.
some clips are mono some stereo

A. question – 2 experiments:

1. all tracks panned to 0
exported qtconv ‘stereo’ – got 2 audio tracks (stereo pair) panned both to left (-1,) why is that? But can hear them in both headphone sides, L and R

2. all tracks panned to 0
exported qtconv ‘mono’ – got 1 audio track, but can hear in both headphone sides L and R.

so are either of these really dual mono?
if not, how can one export and get dual mono?

B. other questions:
– how does one assign as mentioned above some tracks to ch1 and some to ch2? ( I just see many tracks. One track has the a1 on it and other track has the a2 on it. the rest of the tracks have neither. Do those a1 and a2 tabs do anything in this case?

– Is it advisable to assign tracks to channels if you are ending up w dual mono – which means the same exact thing in both sides, right?

Thanks so much anyone who is willing to answer these question.
Warmly,
Hope

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Hi Walter,
This is amazing you know all this. I will study this and see what I can do.
I will get back to you .

You are a saint and a scholar.

Apprciate so much dear Walter,
Warmly,
Hope

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Hi Walter…

I so appreciate you taking the time to listen and answer these things.

Have been wondering about these things for such a long time.

How can one really know what settings to use, then, for memory and process?

The kind of motion graphics I am doing at the moment are pretty simple. Only using AE effects except some Trapecode Glow, Shine, Particular, no 3d objects…just pretty much simple things. As a sample, here is a highly compressed version on the latest video.

Would you be able to tell from this? This sample would just be to show and get approvals, then once approved, we send to the video department an mpg2 which is 720 wide, which is broadcast on the web: (Preview version: https://honey.globalgoodnews.com/test_movies/deepavali.mov )

Which one of the below settings do you think would be best option…or some other option you would suggest:

What do you think?

Thanks again so much.

Sending so much thanks to you, Walter,
Warmly,
Hope

Note: I have noticed since installing mavericks that cs5.5 AE is giving me the beachball, which it never did before. Never did that with Snow Leopard.
I think, if I keep on with this cs5.5 that I have to go back to Snow Leopard. I read some where that CS5.5 is optimized for Snow Leopard and CS6 for Lion and Mt. Lion, and CC on, for Mavericks.

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