[Herb Sevush]

“People are reading far too much into this naming.”

I brought it up because I thought people were reading far too little into it.

“The word “Event” can refer to anything that is bounded in time, and virtually all video shoots start and end at specific points in time.”

Everything is bounded in time.

An event implies a singular continuous occurrence, that’s why people who do weddings and such are called Event Planners. Documentary shoots, feature film productions and many other productions are totally discontinuous and in no real way can be thought of as an “event.”

“‘Events’ is not an ideal word, but there doesn’t really seem to be a better one.”

How about “folder?”

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Herb Sevush]

I’m not being paranoid about this naming thing, I just find it interesting. Maybe after 20 years in analysis I have learned to take insignificant things seriously, and serious things humorously.

You bring up the name “Canvas” in FCP. It’s pretty obvious that the concept was “a blank canvas” in which you could create anything. It’s not better or worse than something like “Event”, it’s just a clue into a thought process.

I never understood why an NLE would run from the simple and descriptive “Source” and “Record” monitor of TV production. Everyone in the business at the time understood it and new kids could learn it as easily as “Viewer” and “Canvas.” Obviously the designers back then were stone cold ignorant of editing conventions and were not interested in feedback from editors. Which also seems to be the case with X.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Herb Sevush]

Actually one of the reasons I started this thread WAS to discus the semantics. I believe the designer’s choices in the naming of things tells a lot about their vision for X, precisely because those names are so different from industry norms. I realize that no one is married to the designers intent, but I find it useful in evaluating what the future development might be.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Herb Sevush]

Thanks again Tom, that’s what I was trying to understand.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Herb Sevush]

Movie Premieres, Awards or Live televised concert are actual “events” – that is something that happens in one time and place. For that reason many of them are not edited at all, they are broadcast Live! – that’s what Live means.

In any event (watch the pun there) many productions are not “Events”, they are often temporally and geographically discontinuous. That’s why I keep asking about how FCPX deals with importing additional material over time.

Don’t you find it just a little odd to take an aspect of TV programming that is often not edited at all and make it the central organizing metaphor for an editing system?

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Herb Sevush]

David –

This is one of the things I was trying to discuss in this thread.

The only way it seems to make sense is in the way you laid it out – “What is the Event that you want to make your movie about? – your kids birthday, your trip to Spain, etc.” A very youtube way to think of video production.

The idea that a single Event is at the heart of the editing process is a strange one. It does seem like it relates to the story about the Imovie vacation video.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Herb Sevush]

“Then you could create a folder in your Event Browser into which you start creating Compound Clips- say one for each scene in your project.”

do you mean you can create the compound clips before you ever put anything on the timeline. How does that work?

“In other words- you just need to try it out.”

All of my work is multi-cam. I’m not going to try it out till it has multi-cam available (if and when). I’m just trying to understand it enough to figure out if it’s even worth waiting for.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Herb Sevush]

Thanks Tom.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Herb Sevush]

“A “project” in FCP7 does not mean the same thing as in FCPX.”

This is what I am trying to understand. A FCP7 project has one or more timelines and a collection of media in a browser. Other than in it’s inability to have more than 1 timeline, in what way is a FCPX project functionally different than a FCP7 project. I know it has a totally different way of linking the content, but does it have different content as well? What else is different?

Also, you talked a lot about events but you didn’t address the original question

“If you later import more material into the project, does it store it in the original Event, or does it create a new Event …?”

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Herb Sevush]

Rick –

This was very helpful.

I had heard there were no timelines anymore just projects – apparently not true.

I take it each project can have only 1 timeline? And that being the case, to work with multiple timelines you would have to work with multiple projects?

Also you said that a given project starts out with a single Event folder. If you later import more material into the project, does it store it in the original Event, or does it create a new Event that is now also associated with the project?

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions