[Geert Van den berg]

I am just a Premiere Pro rookie, but I think that isn’t possible (yet), Please use the form on the Adobe website to enter a feature request as I did. I hope Adobe overhauls the audio capabilities of Premiere to match or surpass FCP7.

If you have Final Cut Pro you can use that to add the MnE track. If you don’t have FCP then you can also use QuickTime Player 7 Pro.

First export a quicktime from Premiere with one stereo track. Export the MnE as a second stereo audio only track. (You can do this via Audition.)

-Then open both in QuickTime player.
-Select the Audio file.
-Command-A to select all the Audio.
-Command-C to copy it
-Make sure the QuickTime with video is positioned completely at the beginning, and hit alt-command-V
-save
-hit command-J to open the the properties window. Here you can toggle either track on or off, so you can check if everything is running in sync.

[Geert Van den berg]

XDCAM transfer only exports MXF D10’s. (which is the most commonly used type of MXF using either IMX or XDCAM codec).

MXF is just a container, like Quicktime, it can contain many codecs, he needs MXF with DV 25.

[Geert Van den berg]

After the promotions of the competition and them pointing out FCPX is not a professional tool, IMHO Apple has every right to do a counterattack.

Yes Apple what you are showing, works certainly better than Media Composer or Premiere, but this is basically all that FCPX can do (I read the manual in a couple of hours and then there was almost nothing more to learn about it…), and MC and PP do a lot more than just these things! (And you’re not showing how to add a cross dissolve to just an audio track and how even the slightest modification to a video file in another app makes it impossible to relink…)

I really like FCPX, so add all the missing stuff back in ASAP! FCPX its short learning curve is a plus, simple can be powerful, but please…

Hmm this forum is really therapeutic 🙂

(the Adobe Production bundle is also almost ordered though…)

[Geert Van den berg]

Thanks, handy!

[Geert Van den berg]

Soundtrack Pro is not gone officially yet… it’s part of Logic Studio!

[Geert Van den berg]

Your post is already from a while ago, but I think the answer is that a DV stream doesn’t support more than 1 audio track.

If you’d try the same with as output a Quicktime container (.mov) it will work.

[Geert Van den berg]

You’re right Apple has created a great codec and it’s getting used more and more.

But Avid could also create new variances of DNxHD and offer a 4k 4:4:4 version.

It appears that DNxHD is a bit more open. But then again probably not so open that Adobe can use it directly in Premiere. It’s possible to encode or decode that codec with ffmpeg or ffmbc though.

DNxHD can be wrapped in MXF. Since Apple’s ProRes license is either very difficult to obtain or expensive, we probably never going to see a ProRes MXF.

As far as codecs are concerned I think the big players are Apple, Avid and Sony (which we shouldn’t forget, with the tapeless workflow they’re losing some ground, but they’re very established in file based workflows with IMX/XDCAM codecs and now expanding with HDCAM codec).

[Geert Van den berg]

I completely agree.

AV Foundation is just a framework at the moment, part of what in combination with other frameworks makes FCPX. It’s not a container format like Quicktime or MXF, or is it?

It could be that Apple will create another container format in the future, but then there’s still MXF. Almost every broadcasting company that we supply content to asks for mxf files, and some ask for mpeg transport streams but that’s the minority.

I am not sure what engine Avid is using, but Adobe has the Mercury Engine. Premiere plays what is at moment the most common mxf format, D10. (mind you I don’t know nothing about it other than that I run a demo and having read about it on the internet, the demo runs swifty though!). So I don’t see why it would need Quicktime or AV Foundation to work as it does now.

Does Adobe need Quicktime to be installed on a PC to run?

And as been said Avid has its own file container format too. It’s called MXF but’s it’s proprietary, so in my opinion it’s confusing that it’s called MXF. But then again, not every other MXF is the same thing either.

[Geert Van den berg]

[turner hall] “but FCP X isn’t one of the version options ye”

That has changed, it is now the ONLY option!

[Geert Van den berg]

Great deal, I am demoing Production Premium at the moment.

One gripe I have is that Premiere and Media Encoder aren’t flexible in exporting other audio configs than stereo or 5.1. (might be a limit of the demo’s though). I’d like to have the option to route the audio to as many tracks and configs on output as I need in a Quicktime or MXF container.

For a batch encoder I’d like some sort of audio routing matrix. (a bit like the ones in Telestream Episode or Rhozet Carbon Coder). But with more trackconfig options, like 2 or more stereo tracks for multi-language stuff.

With FCP7, QT Player Pro and Compressor, I am quite flexible with audio tracks (having many automated scripts as well)