Gary Huff
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[Andy Field] “Gary I’m clearly not smart enough to understand anything you are saying.”
You don’t have to be a jerk about things…but you’re clearly not making very good analogies…I’m not the only one saying so.
So are you just sitting there with your arms crossed going, “It IS JUST LIKE stealing a car!” or will you actually step out of the b.s. cloud and see that your snide comments about depriving people of things doesn’t really match up with the reality of how copyright infringement actually works?
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[Craig Seeman] “I checked their FAQ and yes they do says they will CS6 indefinitely. That’s an impressive forever. It’ll be interesting to see how that pans out.”
I imagine you in 40 years,
“Craig, come to bed already!”
“Can’t yet, dagnabit! Gotta see if I can still download CS6!”
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[Andrew Kimery] “No need to download a torrent copy though”
I was referring to a specific situation with currently boxed software, not to CC.
With the Creative Cloud, the obvious “hack” won’t even touch the software. It will be a re-route of the IP address for the activation server that will point to a localized software that mimics the server and sends the “all clear” every single time it’s polled. Which means you could install CC once, install the fake server, and never again connect to the Internet and the software would never expire.
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[Andy Field] “Gary, know enough about debate not to get involved with someone who insults and belittles.”
Think of it this way…how would you respond to someone making the claim that the moon landings were faked, and their constant response to you was with poor analogy, illogical “if A therefore B”, and strawmen?
You’d probably react the same way.
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[John Davidson] “If you go to the mac app store, the top featured “Editors’ choice” application is Acorn, right across the main banner.”
I noticed that too! But I’ve never heard of Acorn. Anyone have any experience with it?
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[Andrew Kimery] “I wouldn’t be surprised if a situation arose where a hack had to be used as a short term fix because something wonky happend w/the authentication handshake”
What happens is there is something wrong with the license, a torrented copy is found to get the work done, and then it’s forgotten and the torrented version is running years later.
I won’t name names, but you would recognize the corporation.
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[Joseph W. Bourke] ”
You walked right past the point and stepped over it as if you had blinders on! Lots of jobs go to people who don’t even have a demo to show – I’m talking about the bottom feeders who can afford to take any price from a client because they have no expense into the software.”I pointed out that I’ve lost basically a bottom feeder job to someone with a ton of equipment that can’t just be copied either (we’re talking bringing a good $14,000 of gear for a $250/week rental rate).
How is that not pointing out that this sort of thing is all over, and not necessarily related to someone who has access to torrenting? What if that pimple-nosed kid you brought up has a legal copy, just had his Dad purchase the Student/Teacher edition?
The end result is exactly the same from your end.
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[David Lawrence] “The Bono Copyright Act has nothing to do with protecting society.”
And here’s the tricky part…people seem to think that pointing out that copyright being primarily used to enrich mega-corporations is bad argument…say that if you argue that depriving an artist of his penny (or less even) of royalty on the iTunes single that you pirated isn’t that big of a deal.
However, then is the near obliteration of public domain via legislation bought and paid for by these mega-corporations also fair? Certain people would like to drop the “theif” label on those who make an exact duplicate of a piece of software and learn on it until they can afford it, but apparently don’t give a single shit about the absolute destruction of public domain simply to keep money flowing into the coffers of people who are generations removed from the person who actually did the work of creation.
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[Andrew Kimery] “Not quite the same situation is a bit of an understatement. 😉 Buying a game then using a no-disc hack or something like that so you can play the game w/o needing the disc in the tray is not the same thing as pirating a copy of the game.”
Not at all…there are hacks for games that require constant online validation (think the new Sim City) that people hacked so they could actually play it because the servers were down.
Business owners won’t be pirating software…it’s not worth it to them. I suspect that, if anything, they’ll simply stay put…like they did with FCP7. If enough of them do that, Adobe’s in for a world of hurt.
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[Joseph W. Bourke] “How does that hurt me. You figure it out…”
If your clients cannot differentiate between your work and this pimple-nosed kid’s…I think you have more problems then how easily something can be copied.
And that’s not going away with DRM. I have lost very low rate jobs to people with way more expensive gear than what I can bring, stuff that can’t simply be copied, so it’s not just related to that.