Gary Huff
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[Sandeep Sajeev] “It is what it is. Everyone’s looking to minimize risk.”
Yes, plus there has to be reasonable expectation. I mean, Adobe could say, “We own all copyright to any work created with our software in perpetuity” in their agreement, but I highly doubt that would stand in court because it’s simply not reasonable.
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[Craig Seeman] “e’ve also seen whether a company folds its cards or EOLs software, at some point the activation server shuts down. Thus you may not even be able to move the old software.”
And Adobe, to their credit, provided an activation free copy of CS2 when they did that, so there is hope.
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[Jeremy Garchow] ”
It’s not about the money, but it’s about the money.”It is, but I think in this way: eventually, if you’re paying so much to not actually own anything, is that a good ROI?
I don’t think anyone argues with $29.99 at all…and then they seem to be okay with the bump to $49.99.
But what if that yearly subscription rate turns into $69.99? $99.99?
What if the CC turns into what used to be the cost of purchasing the full version of Creative Suite every single year, and on top of that takes money away from R&D and shrinks its development workforce.
Would that be a good ROI? I’d say that’d be a firm “no!” from most people…but then what do you do?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Can’t the Creative Cloud truly help Adobe make better products and get them out of arbitrary time frames that have nothing to do with how long it take to create better products?”
If that’s what it is, but people are cynical for a reason, and that reason is called “history of humankind.”
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[Franz Bieberkopf] ”
While I wouldn’t ignore the subscription issue, you could, for example, pay for DNxHD and develop a workflow where everything was transcoded to that.”Have dealt with that in FCP Legacy for so long, that it in no way entices me.
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[Richard Cardonna] “Yes $60. bucks a year but no activation the app is yours in the sense that you can still use it as I understand”
Yeah, it’ll open as long as you’re using only DNxHD (Which is a one-time $70 fee), or DVCAM / DVCPRO 25/DVCPRO 50/DVCPRO / MPEG 422 SD/HD. Everything else requires that subscription.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “I think there’s a significant difference in that Ligthtworks offers a free base installation. That’s not the same model.”
Well, except what are you going to do with that base installation? Open an old project? Hope it’s not using ProRes, AVCHD, H.264, XDCam, XF codec, AVC-Intra, REDCODE, DPX, or HDV…because that footage requires a subscription license for decoding.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I’m all for equal rights, but I can’t imagine Adobe writing terms where they’d have to check in with each and every user before making a business decision. It would be stagnating. At some point, as Sandeep says, you have to let it go and hope that they keep up their end of the bargain?”
I agree. Reading those terms, it just struck me as CYA legalize for Adobe so that you can’t turn around and start a class-action for every little stupid thing.
Very similar to how there were uproars over legal agreements from a host of online services, none of which panned out to anything in the end.
I mean, ultimately, how different is it from the agreement that came with the boxed copy of CS6? I bet it’s hardly different.
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[Gav Bott] “Company has a product that is successful in sales and also very heavily pirated. They are able to argue the level of piracy as a measurable $ amount and are allowed to mitigate their tax bill as a % of that amount as a loss.”
You would have to be able to prove that, without the ability to pirate said product, that the end result would be a sale and not simply a pass on purchase of said product.
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[Richard Cardonna] “If you stop paying the cloud. what happends does CC work with ink marks or doesn’t render or it just doesn’t open.”
It just doesn’t open. At least that’s what currently does.