[Eric Rainey]

NEVERMIND!!! I fixed it. By deleting multiple things in my timeline I found two small clips offline..now I can see waveforms! FCPX works correctly…my bad!

[Eric Rainey]

There are a few staff editors and freelancers mostly. We cut commercials, promos, corp vids mostly. Our workflow deals with mostly one editor working on a project, but assistant editors open projects, add to projects. Sometimes we view cuts in other bay(from other editors) and sometimes other editors open projects while someone else is working on them, not to work in(or save them), but to get media and sequences out of.

I have very limited experience with FCP X and want to really see if other people have worked the bugs out in a big facility. I can’t have us experimenting with a workflow on the job. That is why I would like to get the names of other people actually using FCP X in a big environment. It is hard to find companies doing that.

As I am writing this I see your response John….Thanks!!!! I will watch your videos and hope to bug you tomorrow.

Thanks for the replies everybody!!!
Eric

[Eric Rainey]

Thanks for the post. I am thinking Premiere as well. If someone has knows of anybody/company that is working with that many bays and is happy with FCP X. Please let me know and I will call them.

Thanks
Eric

[Eric Rainey]

If you work in a 20 bay environment that is step backwards. At the end of the day or when someone leaves they have to make sure their FCP X Projects/Events are on the network and EVERYBODY forgets and things get messy.

[Eric Rainey]

Where I am at, the facility black and code the tapes for us so all of us have been doing “insert edits”. Maybe assemble edit will make our layoffs more accurate? But, what happens when you have to re-layoff to the same tape…all of us have had to re-layoff. Does the assemble edit lay down new timecode again or is it just doing an insert edit?

Thanks
Eric

[Eric Rainey]

Maybe why none of us can get frame accurate layoffs is because we are doing an insert edit vs. assemble edit. The facility I am at Black and Codes all the digi tapes we use so that is what has made sense to us. I will try assemble editing our SD layoffs and see what happens. But, how many times have you started an output and then you needed to stop the output mid stream or re-layoff the the sequence onto the same tape. Will assemble edit re-lay the timecode back on the tape like the original assemble edit?

As for posting pics of my compressor downconverts. on the left is compressor on the right is kona 3 layoff. It is hard to tell in the pics the difference but the compressor down convert is much more “edgy” or “jaggy”. I will try and post the pics again…it wouldn’t take them earlier. I would do higher res but forum only allows under 500k.

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[Eric Rainey]

Hey thanks for your responses…I have attached a frame the uncompressed(right side)was from Kona 3 layoff and then redigitized, new prores444(looks the same uncompr or prores)(left side) was from compressor. I have adjusted and tried many different settings in “frame controls”. Let me know if you have an adjustment?

Thanks
Eric

[Eric Rainey]

I am at a facility with 10 digidecks dvw 500, dvw 500a, dvw m2000…all different. None ever come in frame accurate. No editor here has ever had a solid layoff. I can try to see if they will update the KONA software but I bet that won’t work because I have talked to numerous editors and all laugh at how bad FCP is at laying off frame accurate. Thanks for the tip i will try it.

[Eric Rainey]

Yes I agree the hardware is much better but I would think someone has figured out a way to do some software solution. I have a AE artist that is going to program a script to do the downconverts in AE but I was wondering if anybody had any other solutions? AE’s down convert looks better than compressor. It has been years since I have used Cleaner…has anybody done any comparisons?

Another question as well…I have seen many people with this problem….when i use the KONA 3 to down convert, the layoff is not frame accurate. I usually set my “edit to tape” window to start the layoff a frame early but it only nails it 1 out of 4 times(average). I know I can offset the layoff in the software but gees… it only randomly hits the right timecode.

[Eric Rainey]

Ok, well thanks for the input. AVID needs to get on that..

Thanks