Eric Monroe
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Hey T,
I am blown away at how you can edit that length of HD footage and not have issues with native AVCHD. I have a Quad-core machine, running 8 gb of RAM, 10k velociraptor system (c:) drive, a raid zero for media/scratches, yet another 1tb drive for project files, GTX260 card like yours, and I cant budge AVCHD in the multicam viewer 4-up. and that’s only a couple minutes long each. My machine is a few years old, I just added some of those upgrades recently. Maybe the bus speeds aren’t there with my setup like machines that are newer…..who knows.
I am using FCP currently and for more than one reason, mainly cuz I wanna be well-rounded as an editor, I feel that I can learn from the way other NLE’s handle their workflow. I have learned quite a bit from the way that FCP does things, and it has helped me even in premiere workflows. I am not looking for a job either, I work full-time running my own business doing video production work, but ya just never know what can happen these days. I am extremely blessed right now, with more work than I can handle, but ya just nvr know what future holds. So if I have a wide skill set, at least I could go out there and be more usuable if I had to be.
I have a mac and a pc, so that is why I said FCP was cheaper, cuz I already own both. I was director of video for a large church for 3 years, before moving from there into doing my own stuff full-time. I had a really nice custom built quad-core machine with production premium CS3. Now I help out here and there at the church we currently attend, and I have access to a Mac Pro with the FCP Studio 3 on it. So I am gonna sit back and wait to see what happens, in the mean time, I will keep using my CS4, and the older FCP studio 2 that I have on my mac. Till I get a better feel for what kinda specs I need in a machine to run CS5. FCP has a pretty solid proxy editing workflow, and yes you do have to rewrap to prores, but it doesnt bother me, cuz I can set everythign to log and transfer while I am in bed, I get up the next morning, walk down to my studio, and I am ready to edit.
Have a great night!
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Andy,
I greatly appreciate you taking the time to post this. This has been helpful. Thanks a bunch.
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[icecooled oc intel x6800] “I don’t understand you complaining about money if you are working with FCP?”
Why is that? Adobe production premium = $1699 FCS3 = $999
FCS is cheaper.
[icecooled oc intel x6800] “Haven’t done much else but edit my files Gigabytes smaller and with no more 11 hour downtime!”
Why are you experiencing 11 hour down time?
[icecooled oc intel x6800] “Good luck wasting your time without CS5!”
So becoming proficient at another editing software is wasting my time? Last time I checked, if you go to look for a job as an editor, WAY MORE of them require FCP experience, than do require PPro experience. just sayin.
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Hey Michael, that’s what I was afraid of. Well this does however answer my question perfectly. Thanks a bunch for your speedy response!
Have a great night!
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[Peter Corbett] “. I think Apple is really falling away from the rest of the pack. “
In what ways? I am interested because i am spending quite a bit of time right now learning this software.
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Hey Andy,
I just played with Motion for the first time yesterday, and I don’t really do alot with AE in the first place. What would you say Motion lacks when compared to AE?
Also, what would you say is the reason that basically all the big name people use FCP or Avid, and not PPro stations for their workflows?
Just wanted to hear your take….and anyone else who wants to comment.
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Tom: I kindly hope that you are not directing “childish rants” at me for posting this.
My initial reason (yes, through frustration, I admit) was to let people know, who might not have seen the small disclaimer, not to waste their time downloading the trial if they were going to be expecting to give CS5 a run with the ever popular and much hated AVCHD format. That was truly all.
I too have used PPRO since CS2 and I make my full-time living doing long form, multicam (4 to be exact) production work. The release of CS5 for me personally has been a much awaited thing. I have been a diehard adobe guy since getting into this field. However, my bubble was burst when i found through d’ling the trial that i could in fact not use the very features that adobe has bragged/advertised SOOOO much about.
My main frustration comes from the fact that adobe premiere elements has access to the mpeg codecs in its trial…..so this whole adobe would have to pay lic. fees comes as a bit of a confusing thing. Elements, has a watermark over exported videos in the trial…but gives you the ability to at least TRIAL the software. So why then would they not allow us to place clips on the timeline, and just render the media encoder useless so that in the trial exporting would not be allowed…..at least then we could see if our machines could benefit from the new software.
I feel that everyone here has made points that hold value, and to everyone, i appreciate ALL of your input on my topic. If frustrations, or differing points of view are “childish rants” then why do we have forums? Maybe Adobe should read these forums, and posts to get a feel for the temperature of the situations going on with REAL users.
Eric A. I thnak you for giving us your insight, and sharing your experiences. EVERYONE here has the right to their opinion, even if some disagree. That is what makes this forum great.
I was not trying to start people arguing, i only wanted to voice my frustration, and see if others could shed light to the situation. See if others shared in or disagreed with my take on things. I appreciate each one of your inputs, and want to be “cool” with all of you.
cheers,
Eric M.
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I am with ya. What are you editing with? I am currently diving into FCP studio 3 and enjoying it so far.
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I just always wonder, when are these “big companies” gonna get it right?!? It seems as if they do absolutely zero communication with the “everyday people” who use their products…..to find out how they can provide a better end-user experience.
I am gunning for a certain workflow, and I am still unsure if they can provide, so I will not be purchasing now either….I have a feeling there will be alot of lost sales because of this. but what do we know….right….we are just the people. hehehe LOL
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Hey Eric…..really glad to hear something positive about CS5. Glad to hear it is running well for you. I am prolly not goin to abandon adobe entirely, just take a leave of absence while I take the time to finish learning FCP. I would like to be fluent in both “languages”
When i said it wouldnt benefit me, i wasnt totally clear i guess. I do mostly 4-camera angle long form production work. So I most always have 4 streams of footage going into the multicam viewer at 30-45 minutes long each. In DV this has never been an issue……well I want to be able to do that with HD, and from the looks of it, you can only do that if you have one of those high end quadro cards.
Again, I hope I am wrong cuz the integration in the CS is really a great thing. I have a decent SD workflow in CS4 so I am goin to continue with that until more CS5 feedback comes in over a period of the next few months while I learn FCP on the side in all of my “spare time” LOL