[Eric Hite]

No not before. I did after and noticed that it solved the width issue. Acording to Newtek the “High profile” mpeg 2 is 422 and so I am unsure how to setup premiere. I had originaly used DV-widescreen ntsc. But isnt that 420… so dont I immediately loose color info? I need to do some simple edits and trow a credit roll then send to encore for a sd dvd with menues. So far results have been strobing/ghosting on movement and it looks about like a webcam instead of the 3 cannon xha1’s we used to shoot with.

Thank you for any other tips or advide.

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV

[Eric Hite]

Oh yeah.. and I will probably never be “done with this project”. This is something we do every week. I would like to streamline this process. We have been burning dvds live…and now want to add quality and features to it.

Thank you

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV

[Eric Hite]

OK The Footage is from a live event. Shot from 3 cameras and mixed live. The mixer (tricaster studio) records a “studio mpeg” and an mp3 file. I also record a wav file with a external zoom. Yes the wav file sounds much cleaner and I’ll use that instead.

Now when you say recapture… I am simply transferring the file from one computer to another. So you think I should find a way to cut the file into pieces and then drop into premiere?

Ill check that other thread. Main concept will have to wait for now. I need to master what is at hand. Once things are a bit more black vs red…then plugins may be an option.

How you you recomend I split this large file?

Thank you.

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV

[Eric Hite]

I use what ever my source footage is for my time line. So typicaly HDV. Or the XHA1 does DV, but I think it really shines in HDV mode. So ill use a HDV1080i timeline. I select Preview in maximum and render in maximum bit depth. Then edit away… Then I have dynamically linked to encore and for my test I use no menues just basic first play and burn. Then Play the disc back either on the computer to a Samsung 42inch lcd or on a seperate dvd player to an Olivia 40 LCD. The result is less than stunning, infact its quite disapointing. It is blocky, noise around edges, diagionals are stair stepped and you get the idea. I tried the uncompressed avi then into encore and that look alright but it made a smaller 4:3 then letterboxed the video inside that…so on the dvd playback you get a 4:3 with black sides then a 16:9 letterboxed inside that which looks alright but small, say 1/3 the screen size then you can zoom the tv and fill it, but it get nasty as the tv is doing the zoom.

I was going to try encoding mpeg2 from Preimere, then opening encore and import the already finished file. You say I should be able to get nice crisp image without that, so I’m obviously missing something, and I am sure its simple.

OK the text issue. I noticed this on a DV timeline and a HDV timeline. My setup for viewing is the Samsung 42″ LCD connected to my pc via HDMI to DVI cable and resolution set at 1920 x 1080 and so it basically a large computer monitor/tv. On a dv timeline I can use 100% on the preview monitor and it fits nicely on HDV it scalled down to 50% or so.

So what I am noting is that when I create a title (still) and get the text all perfect and such then place it on my timeline it looks great in the preivew. Now at this point preimere has the Red i want to render this line but i can play it anyway for several layers and it looks good. BUT if I render workspace the red line goes away and the quality of the text goes down…alot. The edges are rough and jaggie/stairstepped. Then they look simular in the final output on a DVD.

I have had good success with a 1080P Windows MEdia file..In fact I was pleasntly suprised with that. Also creating an AVI file and displaying it from presenter software onto a projector looks good too.

And then there is the tricaster…We connect our 3 cannon xha1’s via coax composite video and either shoot in SD or HDV and let he cam down convert. I think we decided Shooting in SD is better than the cams conversion but thats not my final answer. We are considering many options to improve this (basicaly looking at converters). It seems that the best signal we can get into the tricaster is 480 componet. OK so we switch mix and text over lay live and put intro and outro on from the ddrs live and record to the internal Hard drive using their “mpeg-2 Studio” setting. This is in mpeg format but is typically 8-12 gig for an hour and a half or so. That file play and looks “ok” in preimere but when I dynamically link to encore and burn the video playsback jumpy and blury and at times has a huge ghost like or timewarp looking effect.

So…Thoughts..Suggestions…Books to read? I unterstand there are a hundred codecs and options. What I think I am missing is which to use and how to get from one to another…

Thank you again

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV

[Eric Hite]

Here is the link I refered to.

https://support.microsoft.com/kb/927827/en-us

I have not had to do this but it might help you. As usual backup your registry before trying.

Let me know if it works.

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV

[Eric Hite]

OK by cam in proper mode I mean if its HDV footage then make sure in vcr/play mode with the cable NOT connected you go into signal setup then go to playback std and do NOT use auto. Use HDV… and if its DV then use DV.. If it is HDV and you need DV then set is to HDV but turn HD down-conv on…otherwise leave it off. Then I power off the cam plug in cable then turn back to vcr/play… windows picks it right up..then open adobe. Works like a charm here.

Now there was someone else haveing issuse in the HDV forum and someone found an article in the Microsoft Knowledge base about windows vista not enumerating certian 1394 connections and there is a workaround by editing the registry. I never did this on my maching as it just works but I will find the message and post the link.

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV

[Eric Hite]

Ok Ive been using the Dynamic Link Function. One of the reasons we went with adobe was to skip some of the seemingly redundant steps of render to this file…put that here..put this there.. then do this. But it seems at a loss in quality.

So let me make sure I understand this. You are saying that If i render out an AVI file and then dump that into encore it will look better than the Dynamic link function. (because of how it handles the bit rate)and you are saying DV AVI. So thats export-media-(then choose Microsoft avi- then choose NTSC widescreen DV…then theres codec options at the bottom. Leave it on DV…I have heard some people suggest none? OR would you say that the Uncompressed Mircosoft AVI. Then take the file into encore.

Also in Preimere while editing the text looks great, but as soon as I let it Render Work Area the Text Gets Jaggies even on HUGE fonts. Is that the software conforming to the DV codec and is there a way to keep it from doing that.

Thank you for your time.

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV

[Eric Hite]

Wow dont ever hit F5 if u meanto type it it will erase your post HAHA. OK First time for you second for me.

Yes it works just fine for me. I shoot with one of the 3 Cannon XHA1s we have then connect to windows ultimate 64bit via fire wire with cam in proper mode first of course. Windows then runs its auto play which I close then open Premiere Pro CS4 hit F5 or File Capture and away we go…OR I can open On Location and hit play on cam and rec in software…Either way get the video in the box.

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV

[Eric Hite]

Thank you for clearing up those loose ends. After using a few other programs and “average” computers I think with this research and help from people like yourself and others at the COW I will be able to create a faster and more reliable workflow.

I found that with the HDV footage on FCP I would render out a Proress file and then send that to compressor..and take that file to dvd authoring…I take it from what I have read about adobe it is a little more straightforward. Is there an adobe version of proress or is that whole step no longer necissary.

Thanks again for your time and advice.

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV

[Eric Hite]

So when I order I suppose I must specify 64 bit edition? I curenttly have vista business. So being new to this 32 bit vz 64 bit scene, I am guessing I should have the 64 bit OS installed FIRST, then install a 64 bit version of Adobe. Our cameras use HDV mini tape so for the most part HDV footage then out to various formats, mostly sd DVD for the next few months anyway. I will have a few things to prepare for local broadcast.

And just to clairify on the drive setup. Does adobe bring information over to the drive it is installed on or work with footage where it is stored. I would hate to have a nice little raid working and be held down but the slower primary drive. I appologize if I am asking redundant questions, I just prefer to get a clear understanding and epeirement less…especially when it involves cash. 🙂 🙂 :).. Would there be any noticable benifit in installing just my adobe software on a small sas drive, of course i would have 2 or 3 drive raid 0 for the HDV footage.

Thank you for you advice.

Eric D. Hite
Lubbock, Texas USA.
Maxworx Events, TLP, OPRTV