[Duke Sweden]

I don’t “need” 24p, I just prefer it, although with what Vince told me, it’s not so critical anymore. I assume you agree since you didn’t question his point.

When you say 24p is for film output you do mean film as a final destination, right? Not as a “look”?

Yes, it’s still 8 bit, although the D5500 does output 4:2:2. Yeah I do try to stay away from neat video, though, it’s such a heavy plugin. But I will use it when necessary.

For now I’ll just be sticking to my green screen nonsense (I must admit keying is a LOT easier now). I would like to go out beyond my back yard and do some artsy stuff, but that’s for later. Last weekend’s comicon was more than enough outside world for this month 😉

[Duke Sweden]

Yes! Click on the three stripe thingy in the upper right corner of the main project panel, then Panel Group Settings> then check “Stacked Panel Group” and “Solo Panels in Stack”.

Keeps everything nice and neat.

[Duke Sweden]

Thanks, Chris. Yeah, as I said, I noticed the juddering effect when I changed the frame rate. Is your link really good for extended clips or just a quick fix for stuff like the example I posted? The article says Optical Flow is processor intensive, so…

Anyway, I’ve still got so much to learn with this Ninja 2. Still not pleased with my grading skills with all this extra bitrate to work with (220 mbps compared to h264’s 24mbps (I think?) Anyway, thanks again!

[Duke Sweden]

Just as I thought. I love this forum. The fact that you pros will take the time to answer the baby questions of a hack amateur doofus like me when I have nowhere else to turn, well, what can I say. Thank you all.

Here is the video I rendered at two different frame rates. I think you can see that the false 24fps looks a bit jittery next to the 29.976 version. One of those posts in the link you gave me had an idea I could try to get 24fps out of the camera so I’ll give it a shot, but now that I know a pro like you consider 24fps to be more of a gimmick than anything else, it’s not so important. I think I didn’t adjust the shutter speed to 1/60 on this. Anyway here are the videos.
24fps
https://youtu.be/ZV9voiBZAQ4
29.97fps
https://youtu.be/dA7N7c0Pfl4

Since I wanted to get this up fast I encoded at a min bit rate of 10. I guess that’s why the red in my jacket looks a bit ragged?

[Duke Sweden]

Hey Vince. Thanks so much for responding! I’m telling you I searched high and low for articles like the one you linked to. I even emailed Nikon but they never responded. Yes, the D5500 is basically the same as the D5300 only with the swivel out LCD, and possibly no anti-alias filter. It’s odd that both Nikon and Atomos mention that Nikon DSLR’s (not just Nikon PRO DSLR’s, but DSLR’s, period!) output 24fps.

Well, that explains a lot. I had just come here to edit my initial post to add video I just shot (in 1080p 29.976fps). I exported at that frame rate, then changed it to 24fps in sequence settings, and, yeah, there is a bit of jitter in the 24 version.

So, what do I do to be able to get the “film look” that’s been eluding me all this time, with one less weapon at my disposal!?! Is it more in the color grading than the frame rate, in your expert opinions?

Thanks again, Vince. I get to keep what little hair I have left 😉

[Duke Sweden]

Nope, same difference.

[Duke Sweden]

I have 4 USB 3.0 ports, two in the back, and two on the top front of my PC. One of the ones on top has a USB which controls my wireless mouse. Could that be the problem? It works just fine in a USB 2.0 port. I’ll try moving it and see what happens. I’ll report back.

[Duke Sweden]

I don’t think the other guys got the point of your question. I believe you’re asking from the perspective of someone with vision, talent and drive but no money, so he has to make due with an entry level Nikon. Well, to answer your question from my viewpoint it would have to be the Atomos Ninja 2 (and the rest of their line) which takes these lower level cameras and gives them the ability to shoot uncompressed ProRes HQ or DNxHD codecs.

So you can start with that. Hope your paper isn’t due yet 😉

[Duke Sweden]

Interesting! So even those monsters have “shortcomings”, so to speak. Thanks for the reply.

[Duke Sweden]

OK, solved #2. My mic was off!!!! Grrrr….

Still need an answer to #1.

Also, I can’t change the video mode. No matter what mode I set my camera to (24p, 30p, 60p) the Ninja always says 1080p29.976fps. There’s no blue arrow to cycle through different settings.

There is no help to be had anywhere. Even Atomos website says “Well, just press the blue arrow to cycle through the settings!” but there AIN’T no blue arrow there. Grrrrr….