Doug Fish
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Doug Fish
May 10, 2012 at 3:20 am in reply to: ATEM Television Studio vs ATEM 1 M/E Production SwitcherThere’s a setting you change that prevents the camera from shutting down automatically after being idle for a certain period of time (energy saver mode?). Turn off that function, and the Panasonic cameras operate indefinitely, no need to make it record to keep it active.
One problem I’ve found though: I assumed I would be able to just turn on the camera with the remote once mounted. Nope. If you shut it down with the remote it will respond to the remote for 36 hours; but after 36 hours, it will no longer respond to the remote and you must turn it on using the power button on the camera. Unfortunately, there is no setting to change that. So make sure your camera can still be reached after you mount it!
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Doug Fish
February 20, 2012 at 5:50 pm in reply to: ATEM Television Studio: AES/EBU BNC Input from Analog Sound Board?Live remote feeds have never been a problem for me in terms of A/V sync. It is in the recording that I have had problems in the past. I will say I have not had any issues with A/V Sync in the recordings over the past month since updating to 2.8.
I can’t say definitively that your A/V sync will be better, as that depends on what the video has to do to get from your camera to the ATEM and then from the ATEM to the video display–any conversion of the signal along the path it travels from camera to display will cause some amount of delay. All things being equal, however, I would say you will be much closer to sync using ATEM than your current Vidblaster setup.
I’m not entirely sure what you mean by “pull your camera using HDMI.” If you mean how do we connect to the camera using HDMI, the cameras I use have a native mini-HDMI output which makes direct connection to the HDMI inputs of the ATEM simple. Remember, any converters you use will add delay, and since you are using the Osprey, I assume you are using analog composite, which would have to be converted to feed into the ATEM. I would recommend trying some cameras with native HDMI out instead.
Here’s our recording from yesterday:
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Doug Fish
February 10, 2012 at 8:42 pm in reply to: XLR Audio to SDI AES/EBU on ATEM Television Studio[Bob Zelin] “(Richard – you are right – you can just take the 75 ohm RCA output and feed the ATEM – great simple discovery !).”
Bob, Bob, Bob. Apparently you forgot about and did not return to this thread:https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/124/876876
Your response in that thread probably sold a lot of Behringer SRC2496’s (including one to yours truly), as it was the first discussion of how to get sound into the ATEM TVS, and I think you gave a pretty comprehensive answer (although the XLR to BNC suggestion turned out to be needlessly complicated).
I hope that I in turn got a few people buying RCA to BNC (and hopefully other) cables from monoprice. Their quality/value ratio is off the charts.
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Doug Fish
February 10, 2012 at 4:10 am in reply to: ATEM Television Studio: AES/EBU BNC Input from Analog Sound Board?Thanks for the feedback, John. I know I have had to move the audio back 4 frames to get sync in the past, but you’re right, that particular video is barely off sync.
I’ve been using the ATEM TVS to record for about 3 months now, and I haven’t seen much rhyme or reason in the amount of delay that ends up in my video. I’d get a device to delay the audio, but I don’t know how much is necessary on any given Sunday, so I’ll continue to correct if necessary in post. Perhaps with 2.8 there will be some continuity.
Other than that, however, the ATEM TVS has been a wonderful piece of equipment, and very reliable, too. Amazing what $1K will get you these days. Since we began recording in August, I’ve only had one Sunday where we couldn’t deliver a recording of the sermon, and that was before we were even using the ATEM TVS. My camera operator confused the headphone and audio in jacks on the camera, so we didn’t get sound that week. Didn’t notice until the service was over.
Used 2.8 for the first time last week. It is very convenient to record from the software control panel. I believe that’s the extent of what changed from 2.7 to 2.8.
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Doug Fish
February 8, 2012 at 11:42 pm in reply to: ATEM Television Studio: AES/EBU BNC Input from Analog Sound Board?John, I downloaded the 2.8 update last week. The 4-second video to audio delay was an aberration which hasn’t occurred again. Nonetheless, I do get about a 3-4 frame delay in my estimation between the sound and the video. I could fix it, but it’s an acceptable delay–it’s not perceptible to most.
I didn’t do anything to the sync in this week’s video, and I’d like to hear opinions. Do you notice the delay? Would you notice the delay if you weren’t looking for it? See the link below:
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Doug Fish
January 25, 2012 at 3:39 am in reply to: ATEM Television Studio: AES/EBU BNC Input from Analog Sound Board?Camden, good to hear you’ve got it all straightened out. Most frustrating thing is to know what you are doing should work, but you can’t figure out. The last thing you would figure is for the unit to be defective right out of the box.
Mikhail, thanks for increasing the knowledge about what works to bring sound to the ATEM TVS.
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Doug Fish
January 23, 2012 at 7:22 pm in reply to: ATEM Television Studio: AES/EBU BNC Input from Analog Sound Board?I thought that might be the case when you said your unit wasn’t responding to button presses.
Although this product is somewhat of an exception, Behringer is not known for quality. I’ve read reviews of this product where people had problems, opened them up and fixed the problem themselves (a wire was loose or something similar).
Thanks for giving me something to do to take my mind off the fever, aches and chills since I stayed home sick today.
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Doug Fish
January 23, 2012 at 5:50 pm in reply to: ATEM Television Studio: AES/EBU BNC Input from Analog Sound Board?I use the internal clock.
I believe both PLL Lock and Internal should be lit if you are us ing internal clock.
Truthfully, this has been a “set it and forget it” thing for me. Once I figured out how to get sound in, I have not touched it again besides the power switch and a little gain adjustment. I won’t be back to church to verify the settings until Wednesday.
In the meantime, this is what I *think* they are, from left to right:
Source: Analog In
Source: Shouldn’t matter, this controls digital input, which you are not using (I assume)
Mode: A/D and D/A Conv.
Sample Rate: 48khz
Clock: PLL Lock, Internal
Format: AES/EBU
Word Length: 24 bit
Dither: LED light on (I would try both ways, this should be a quality adustment
Emph LED: LED light off
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Doug Fish
January 23, 2012 at 4:40 pm in reply to: ATEM Television Studio: AES/EBU BNC Input from Analog Sound Board?It’s at church, I’m at home, so I can’t tell you, but I know there is some discussion of the correct settings on the web.
I’m assuming the audio in tests correctly, you can hear music into the SRC2496?
I just found the discussion, see if this helps: Review discussion here
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Doug Fish
January 13, 2012 at 10:25 pm in reply to: ATEM Television Studio: AES/EBU BNC Input from Analog Sound Board?1) I have no problem with the live remote locations, they are in sync (or close enough that I can’t tell), so the sync for the live feed has been a non-issue.
2) I have, however, had all kinds of problems with the mp4 produced by the ATEM TVS:
–Cannot parse the mp4 without losing sync;
–An mp4 that appears to be in perfect sync becomes out of sync when uploaded (transcoded) to vimeo
–Last week, the mp4 was actually out of sync by 4 seconds.I have had to take into account these mp4 issues in my workflow and solve post-production using Adobe Premiere Elements 9 by re-aligning the audio and converting to wmv.
Here’s the fixed file from last week, to give you some idea of quality it can produce. This is recorded in 720p, 29.97 FPS, 5 Mbps.