[David Steiner]

in the Conform tab one can export in AAF. so after the render, the AAF does work and I can import into Avid.

the only thing is the AAF only “hard links” to the resolve-rendered files, so I can’t “relink my original sequence” to the graded images, I can only “import the AAF into a new sequence”

so going back to Avid does work, but with a “AAF-crunched” sequence, which might or might not work with effects.

basically, I figured it might be better to simply export the final render from Resolve directly

I explained my simple workflow on another thread: https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/277/13374

Cheers
David

[David Steiner]

I gave up on the “going back to Avid part”, it’s possible with a lot of EDL/reel name-from-tapeID work, but I figured why not have Resolve as a finishing system 🙂

Here is my workflow:
1) any codec/container that ends up with dnxhd sequence that have a “source file” column.
(in my case, it’s Sony EX3’s xdcam ex fast-imported, edited into a sequence, and then sequence is transcoded to dnxhd since Resolve doesn’t read xdcam ex – this transcode does preserve the “source file” column, so we’re good)

2) select sequence and export to AAF (with Edit Protocol), linked media (in avid mediafiles)

3) import that AAF in Resolve’s Conform Tab
-> I get the sequence in Resolve reading the MXFs in avid mediafiles
-> in Conform EDL, we see that the reel names are the “source file” column of the sequence’s masterclips

which is Good

4) -> it is good, because if grade a little in Resolve, then change my edit in Avid then re-export another AAF, Resolve transposes all grades to the new version/resolve session (thanks to reel names from Source File column)

So basically that’s why I want: the creative freedom to be able to edit, start grading, change the edit, and continue grading without starting over

So the finishing system is Resolve: when I have my final edit and my final grade, I export the master/DCP/whatever directly from Resolve

comments welcome!

[David Steiner]

nope, they’re not multicam clips…

and I couldn’t even say I have “trouble” with them, it’s worse: since 5D/AVCHD-originated files have no “reel number” per se associated with them when they’re imported into Avid and have TC always starting at 1:00:00:00

so in my understanding there isn’t any reel name for Resolve to find the images (and TC isn’t enough since they all start at 1:00:00:00)… so the roundtrip back to Avid doesn’t work (Avid -> Resolve works since AAF directly references the path to the files)

David

[David Steiner]

[Jonathan Tremblay] “You could try to add a reel number inside avid by right clicling and use modify.
“

the “modify” can only set a source tape

how can one add reel names to clips in avid?

the main problem is that with a lot of tapeless workflows (5D/7D, AVCHD), there is no reel name and TC starts at 1:00:00:00 for EACH file.

it could work is reel name was file name. but copying the “clip name” column into the “reel #” fails, avid says “column is not modifiable”.

anybody has a solution?

thanks

[David Steiner]

The chinese characters seem to break AAF import in Resolve.

When exporting AAF from a sequence containing masterclips whose file names contain those AVCHD-created chinese characters, Resolve can’t find the files.

[David Steiner]

Hi,

I found the cuprit. Resolve uses direct file names for relink, apparently.

Source Tape: the “source tape name” doesn’t make a difference. I tried again exporting the sequence containing the “source-taped” master clips, and it doesn’t make a difference.
The reel name is still void in Resolve, and I can’t even change it manually.

AVCHD Import Chinese Characters: the problem was the chinese characters that avid 6 creates when importing AVCHD (the original file name didn’t contain any, of course. cf https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/45/883016)

Without those chinese characters, Resolve’s AAF Import finds the files. (using direct file names, I suppose)

Back to Avid: Going back to Avid, I can’t relink. Which isn’t surprising since in the Resolve-created MXF file, there isn’t any reel name/tape name/source file name to relink with.
In Resolve I did use the option “Avid AAF Round-trip” but I have no idea how it should work for relink.

I wish Avid and Resolve provided a little more background info on that. I heard a white paper is being prepared but it’s being prepared for months now.

Good luck everyone!
D.

[David Steiner]

Hi,

I’m trying the Avid to Resolve 8.1.1 AAF export and it doesn’t work.
– I imported AVCHD 1080 25p footage from an A77 into Avid (import, not AMA)
– I edited the master clips into a simple sequence
– I export an AAF of the sequence (with “AAF Edit Protocol” checked in avid dialog box)

Then when I import the AAF in Resolve’s Conform tab (with “automatically import source clips into media pool”, it says “no clips were imported”.

If I look at my /avid mediafiles/1 folder in the “browse” tab, they have no reel name (understandably), and they all have 1:0:0:0 start TC – just like in Avid, that’s normal since avchd .mts files have no TC.

– I tried to add “Source tape names” on the master clips before exporting the AAF, and it doesn’t make a difference.
– The “assist using reel numbers” option in Resolve’s Config tab doesn’t make a difference either.

I suppose the Resolve’s import should be based on file names, so:
– maybe the chinese characters that avid added to the filenames of AVCHD imported footage is a problem? Other people have these chinese characters, but I don’t know if they cause the problem
– since there isn’t anything differentiating the several master clips except file names (and TCs are the same for every file), I have no idea how Avid could relink to new color-corrected MXF files.

Basically, I have no idea, even “conceptually”, how the Avid-Resolve roundtrip could work for non-TC, non-reel name tapeless workflows like 5D/7D/AVCHD.

Maybe somebody got an idea?
David

[David Steiner]

I got the same “issue”. I imported AVCHD 2.0 footage from an A77 (AVCHD 1.0 25p footage, not AVCHD2-specific 50p footage, which I haven’t tried yet)

I don’t know if chinese characters are a problem, but I can’t transfer a very simple sequence to Resolve 8.1.1. Might be something else, though

Filename examples:

00054퐀瀦翿24EFDED80.mxf
00054퐀瀦翿14EFDED80.mxf
00054퐀瀦翿14EFDED80.1.mxf