[David Roth weiss]

Come on Michael, if your clients didn’t leave those JPEGs back at home you’d probably make money, and so your status as a starving artist would be in jeopardy.

BTW, do you remember the genesis of the Tasmanian Devil as your Cow avatar???

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

And the reason you’re not putting the fire on the channel beneath the one with your human being, then rotoscoping the dude on the top layer is?

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

[Craig Alan] “I just don’t understand the need to go down this road until SD drives are many TBs not 1.
“

You’re correct Craig…

The only reason to go further down this road at this point is to continue the otherwise stalled debate that started this thread… We must drive mouse clicks here so Tim can continue to live in the style to which he’s become accustomed. 🙂 🙂 🙂

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

[Walter Soyka] “The answer to file security and catastrophic failure is BACKUP. “

Of course, that’s fundamental Walter, and it goes without saying.

However, in the single huge SSD drive scenario, should your giant SSD fail, you lose everything on that NLE that was changed after the last backup, and your machine is now 100% dead in the water until you restore the working system drive, with everything onboard, all media, project files, cache, etc. Recovery time will be not be fast unless you happen to have a bootable clone of that huge SSD standing by with all of the same files onboard.

So, any way you slice it or dice it, a second drive is necessary for something in any scenario you can envision that has good file security.

At least in a 2-drive scenario, you’re either going to lose the system drive or the media drive, but hardly ever both at the same time. The probability of a total system failure and restore is cut in half, and getting back to work should be guaranteed to be faster.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Besides the obvious of shared storage, or needing to physically move a set of media to another machine in a different location, what good and technical reason is there not to use a drive that is working at 800-900MB/sec?”

Easy! The answer is file security.

Yes, from a strictly performance standpoint, today it is possible that a single large SSD could “probably” deliver enough throughput to handle all performance requirements for most editing purposes, for most users. However, whenever selecting/building a hard drive subsystem, “best practices” should dictate that both performance and file security are of equal importance, and both should be considered at all times.

If you recall, there have been innumerable discussions over the years on the FCP Legacy Forum about whether to store FCP project files on the boot/system drive vs the media drive(s). That discussion revolved around the best solution in case of a catastrophic failure – what’s more important, storing the project files alongside your OS and applications; or, alongside your media files. Of course, a RAID may or may not be configured with RAID 5 or RAID 6 protection, and that has some bearing on that discussion.

Meanwhile, back to the present, your single SSD scenario seems to have no built-in file security… If that SSD drive fails, you would lose everything, and it could happen is an instant. That being said, since we often find that many Cow members don’t have any file security measures in place, i.e. no backups, no boot drive clones, no protected RAID, etc., any discussion of best practices often falls on deaf ears of those who think file security is only for big facilities and wealthy people.

BTW, if you said you were thinking about adding a second SSD drive in a RAID 1 mirrored configuration, that might be a valid option, possibly with both enough performance, and complete system security for the single SSD drive scenario. However, if my brain is working properly, would’t that get us back to a 2-drive scenario?

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

[Jeremy Garchow] “If you had a 16TB PCIe SSD boot drive, you are saying you wouldn’t use it? Why?”

Jeremy,

I’m confused now!

Initially it seemed you were simply discussing put the cache on the SSD boot drive.

But, others here seemed to imply that you were actually suggesting that ALL files, media, apps, cache, etc. should reside, or could reside, on the SSD if there was an SSD drive large enough, without any need for any other hard drive or RAID array.

Now, your single line above also appears to be suggesting a one giant SSD single drive solution. Which is it?

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] “Just admit it; your clients thinks that you are using state-of-the-art computer, where really it is 2 U-Matics coupled together – only delay in answering Steve was that you had to order a crane to move one of them out to look at the connectors on the back of it 😉
“

Hey Mad man!

Actually, I done gradiated…

I’m now mastering in the UHSD Umatic format – ultra high SD Umatic is really hi-res, instead of 325 lines, you get upwards of 327 or 328 lines. Smooths out even Mel Gibson’s wrinkles…

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

Yep, Mads the mad man has it right…

I wonder how many synapses both of us restored collectively to dredge those memories up from the depths of our internal storage arrays?

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

Steve,

I was thinking about this overnight, and I kinda remembered that 3/4 decks required an incoming video signal to supply sync. At least I think I remember that…

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

Are you saying that if you drop a clip on V2 on an empty sequence you have to render?

Or, are you dropping it on V2 on an existing timeline above open space, or above other material on V1?

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.