David Powell
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If Plural Eyes is the problem, then thats what I came to find out! Obviously! Hence why I’m trying to find out if any of these millions of other users might have ran into the problem. Thus far, noone has replied with “I use PE with Canon 5d MarkIII all the time and it works swimmingly.”
I didn’t come here to prove a point. I came to find a solution to a problem. Apparently there isn’t anyone thus far who has said one way or another. So the best solution is the one I did which was pretranscode to prores. It’s working perfectly and its far faster than trying to sync all this footage in final cut X, but still far slower than my usual workflow which is dump in PE, sync in seconds and send to X, which up to using footage from this particular camera has worked flawlessly (for over a year now).
The goal is to find out where the problem lies not make a statement about Canon footage, Apple or PE.
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Bill,
You obviously didn’t read the last sentence of my original post. “Has anyone else experienced this?”. Obviously I’m posting the problem to find out whether or not is a common problem or my own after not coming up with anything in a search.
Since it is a relatively new software, it is possible that not many people have done a Plural Eyes multicam project with 5d MarkIII footage. So far it doesn’t appear that anyone who’s responded so far has. But thank you for editing the subject for those who don’t want to read the post, which includes yourself.
Final Cut X will NOT sync a 2 hour complex source with varying levels of audio the way plural eyes will (if at all most times) There is no magic to it. It either does it or it doesn’t. I know how to use multi cam in X. I’ve done dozens of mulicam projects (usually 6 cam dlsr’s and go pro). If it even came close to the quality of PE then they wouldn’t have a market, and I wouldn’t have paid the money for it. And X will NOT play long multicam clips on the event side with the transport. Period. Those are the longform problems that I have with it. It still is the best thing for what I’m doing. And I’m using it. I’ve used X for over a year exclusively with 100% multicam projects on 4 different systems all using the latest iMacs. I know what I’m talking about.
Of course that was just a sidebar. Wasn’t even part of my original problem. I know how to work around the shortcomings. If you haven’t used canon 5d Mark III footage from Plural Eyes, then you can’t really help here, because that is my problem. Syncing in X is not a solution. It doesn’t work for me and it wouldn’t work for you given the same footage.
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Out of curiosity, are you able to get your 1hr 49min multiclips to play on the event side?
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I’ve done a ton of these projects but something about the originals from 5d Mark III (don’t have this problem with the previous Canon) won’t translate from Plural Eyes to X. Other than that I have no playback issues no matter how many cams (most of my projects are 6 cam).
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The 5D clips DO work on their own in the event/storyline. They will not work in the angle editor coming from PE. I’ve only transcoded to Prores LT beforehand because it wouldn’t work with the native clips. You’re half right. Transcoding should not be necessary outside of X of syncing most definitely is. X does not have the ability to sync long (1-2 hour) multi clips. It works swell for short segment or say 3 long clips that are close in length. 3 cameras of start stop dslr, multiple audio sources faggetaboudit. Actually as I’ve complained many times, it doesn’t handle long multicam stuff well at all. I just make it work. In fact any long multi clip wont even play on the event side, but thats another issue only Apple can fix.
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There’s no wrong way. Just user preference. You can drag and drop in every nle. I mapped the transport to the left hand for fcpX so my right hand is always on the mouse. That’s the fastest way for me. All my shortcuts are remapped to the left. Works really well for X.
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I dare not speak for others, but I prefer to use the keyboard. Avid is really setup to work fast from the keyboard. Its very fluid. Once you have it setup its like paying the piano. Of course now I find myself wishing I had a skimmer in Avid! Hopefully they steal that.
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Well after the originals and proxies wouldn’t work in X, I transcoded the same clips in mpg streamclip and they play fine.
And again original clips will play fine in X but not in the angle editor or in a multi clip. I Weiner if there is some kind of xml problem going on from PE.
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23.98 Shouldn’t the prores not work as well if that were the issue? I transcode same rate.
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I got the biggest and baddest imac from late 2011 i7 3.4 with a t-bolt Raid. Its def not an h.264 issue. I transcoded to proxie and get the same results. Its not playing slow. Its literally frozen. Every clip. Won’t even play one at a time in the angle editor. Every other angle plays at speed with no hesitation. But if I import the same clip to the event, it works just fine. All the cameras in the other angles are h.264 but from 7d’s. Its just from this camera and only in a multi clip.
First time I’ve had this issue, but its the first time I’ve done multicam with this specific camera without having first transcoded to prores outside (which I shouldn’t have to).