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  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 9:41 pm in reply to: Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

    https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/features/

    If you look under the “exceptional editing control” section, it talks about multitrack targeting, source content control, and track sync locks.

    Plus I saw some videos of the new setup. Basically there are now separate source and record side track targeting, and there are sync locks, just like Avid. From the videos I saw, you can have v1 and a1 active on the source side, for example, and v1 AND v2 and a1 active on the record side…so I’m assuming that in an example like that, it would splice in/overwrite on v1 and a1 (if you have it patched v1 to v1 and a1 to a1) and then splice in/overwrite filler on v2 since it’s active but is not being patched with anything. And I’m assuming the sync locks would work the same way they did in Avid.

    Just to make clear, although I saw the setup, I never saw anyone actually use it to make an edit…but I don’t see how it would work any differently quite honestly.

  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 8:48 pm in reply to: Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

    My point was that people still believed it could happen, irregardless of the 1 million registered users.

    Anyway, like I said before, that was way beyond the point I was getting at anyway.

  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 8:13 pm in reply to: Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

    1 million registered users look good for FCP…but Premiere is the most used NLE ever….more users than FCP, Avid, etc, combined! So if you want to go by numbers, I’d think it’s safe to say that Premiere isn’t going anywhere anytime soon either.

    It wasn’t too long ago that many people were guessing that Apple WAS going to sell off ProApps…nobody was sure, but it was a possibility in people’s minds, 1 million registered users and all.

    I guess it all depends on whether ProApps is worth it compared to their iPhone and iPod sales…

    Anyway, this is way off the point and I don’t really want to get into a discussion as to whether Apple will or was going to sell ProApps. The whole point was that you can’t trust that any company is going to continue on with any software. Previous big name players have died, or are dying, and low end players have risen up. Who knows where any software package is going to end up. And Premiere was killed from Mac before it was even a pro app. It was back before it even became Premiere Pro.

  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 6:32 pm in reply to: Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

    But in that same regard, who’s to say Apple won’t kill Final Cut? They killed Shake. Who’s to say Avid won’t go under in the next couple years? Discreet edit died. Media 100 isn’t faring well these days. And so on.

  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 5:46 pm in reply to: Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

    Exactly. Like I said, I work at an Avid shop, but every suite here has a copy of the production studio because things like AE, Photoshop, Encore, Illustrator, etc., are indispensible for us. But with this new release of Premiere, it took all the features I wanted to see from FCP and Avid and included them all. For example, I much prefer the way Avid patches source and record on the timeline much more than Final Cut or Premiere did, but now Premiere basically does it exactly how Avid does it. I liked the way FCP had blend modes available for every clip, which required a separate effect for Premiere…but not anymore. I liked how in Avid I could have a floating timecode box that I could set up to show me all the source timecodes of every clip on every layer in my sequence…now Premiere has that as well. I absolutely hate the way Avid deals with effects, and Premiere works just like AE and FCP, with awesome integration with AE that I use all the time anyway. There just seems to be hundreds of little improvements that may not seem like a lot, but add up to a much better experience…removing effects on multiple clips at once, adding multiple transitions at once, improvements to their nesting, improvements to PS layer imports, etc.

    Anyway, sorry to spew all that at you guys. Here I am, an Avid guy, gushing about Premiere, on the Final Cut board. What can I say…slow day here at work!

  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 4:17 pm in reply to: Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

    It had menus, but that’s about the extent of my knowledge on what went on. I’m not sure on how many menus and all the details on it. Sorry I don’t have more in depth information. I’ve just seen it done twice, and both had menus.

  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 3:55 pm in reply to: Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

    I haven’t personally pressed the buttons in the program to create it, but I was there when they were bring created, and they came out fine…again, not on a Mac though.

  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 3:44 pm in reply to: Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

    I have to agree. I know that a lot of “professionals” don’t use Premiere, but I honestly think it’s due more from perception on the product than its actual merits. Yes, there were some things with the software that maybe held it back from being in a professional environment, but from the previews I’ve seen of CS4 and the changes I’ve read that they made, it looks incredibly kick a**. Virtually every problem I had with CS3 has been resolved.

    We work with Media Composers, Symphony’s, and DS’s here where I work, and it really makes me wish we could work with Premiere.

    And Walter, I don’t work on a Mac so I’ve never come across the problems you did with Encore, but that was their first port back over to the Mac. Even Premiere had a bunch of functionality missing and a few bugs on CS3 for Mac. I’m guessing those types of things got ironed out with this new release…but that’s just a guess.

  • Awesome Pete. Thanks so much. Great DVD by the way!

  • David Frisk

    June 13, 2008 at 2:09 pm in reply to: Learning Boris Red

    Awesome Peter. Thanks so much for taking the time to get me headed in the right direction. I think that’s just the kind of info I needed to get started. There’s probably still a bit of digging into the program I need to do before I get relatively proficient in it, but this is definitely a good start.

    All the best,

    David

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