[Dave Kirkey]

John, thanks for the reply again… Wow, I down load the trial of ACID and either I’m just seeing it or I’m just not getting it.. I’ve been trying to figure how to import mono 44.1 24bit wav files in to it (like with Vegas where you import media, choose the media and add it along tracks) i don’t (or very seldom use stereo files. When I take my files off my HD24 drives and bring them up in Vegas it is very easy, they all line up, I can edit them and then once I edit them I just render as a new track and load that back to my HD24 drive and mix on my Sony DMXr 100 console..

Like I thought I think Acid is a lot more with the incorporating midi, sequencers and the like.. I’m looking on how I could just set up a preference that would just deal with Audio mono files … I’m beginning to think that it will be a real hassle trying to do all this with Melodyne. Like I said the stand alone is a great program, but Id love to be able to have all the tracks both insturmnts and vocals to work on tighting them up…. It is just way so confusing 🙂 Thanks for your help John…

[Dave Kirkey]

Morning Steve.. I just read your reply and thanks for the info, I’ve used AutoTune in the past, then someone showed me Melodyne editor and Wow, what a program … I have an older version of auto tune that I have tried from time to time but unless your really skilled it takes a lot of time…

I also just read an article on Acid Pro and it did say it supports rewire and Melodyne should work. I’ve always thought of Acid as a Loop program not a full featured multi-track audio editor. I don’t use Midi or loops I mainly take my multi-tracks from my Alesis HD24 and edit them in Vegas.. but Sony said for audio Acid pro will do everything Vegas will do and is more suited for audio.. (I just hate learning new programs). I think I will get the trial and give it a try, I have the trial of Melodyne and I’ll see if I can figure it out. I have never used any progarm that uses rewire and honestly, I don’t even know what it is 🙂

[Dave Kirkey]

Good Morning John, thanks for the reply, I have used the stand along as well, but when working with musicians they want to hear the music along with it as I tune…. but as a stand alone it is pretty amazing. I wish that Sony would work with Celomony to get it to work. I understand it has something to do with using Rewire? I just read where Acid Pro 7 will work with Melodyne although I have not tried it, I’ve never used Acid although when talking with Sony on the phone they seem to think it’s a great multi track editor .. and from what I see it says it has rewire…. I guess I can get the trial from Sony and give it a try…. but, I was hoping that I could use Vegas (which I have been using since Vegas 4 showed up)

One last question is there much difference in the audio interface and features going from Pro 10 to Pro 12, its hard to keep up with all the new versions…

Thanks again for your reply
Dave

[Dave Kirkey]

Matt, thanks for the reply.. I just answered Johns comments as well. I think what you are makes sense since my goal is to split the stereo file L/R where the left channel is from center to 100% left not taking any information from Center to the right information. I’ll have to check this out further.

The more I use Vegas in projects the more confused I get it seems.. Life just isn’t simple 🙂
Thanks for the input.
Dave

[Dave Kirkey]

Good evening John, thanks so much for the info.. I guess I was just caught off guard with this particular mp3 stereo track, it was really slammed and it made me look in to it further. The Vegas Help and info is a little vague. For example if you choose in preferences to split a stereo file in to 2 mono files I can only assume that they just take from center to left and center to right information… I know you can not do anything with it. I use an Alesis HD24 in the studio to track, I always want to split stereo files to load the in the HD24 drive… Vegas handles it all just fine… it’s more of my problem I guess…

I even tried to use Soundforge by taking the stereo file and saving it as multiple Mono files and it creates 2 files L + R mono tracks.. and I want to take a closer look to find out if it creates separate or actual split files.. not just mono’d files of the stereo track.

I have found the Pan options and had played a bit with that but still had issues. I guess I’ll do more testing on the stereo fine and document what is going on with each option..

Thanks for your help John.. (and Matt)

[Dave Kirkey]

Steve, thanks for the reply and the heads up on the Ashamp software, I’ll check it out..

Perhaps Im missing it I use CDA once I finish a project and on a current project I have on sequencing a list of songs. In this I have a number of processes I do on the files individually and then make up the disc. On CDA it gives me the ability to write text on the finished disc… I put the song name and the artist for each song so it shows up while playing on a CD player.

I did bring up Vegas and then brought several CD tracks up on the timeline.. I can individually edit and clean up with all my VST’s and that is great and thanks for the suggestion. Now is there a way (like with CDA) to write Songs and Artists on the finished CD?

I hope I am explaining my usage well enough… And thanks again for your response…
Dave

[Dave Kirkey]

Evening Ted… Well, I was talking to a guy the other day that said he had a 1″ 16 track machine he has had for year that he might sell.. if he does and it’s reasonable I may have to pick it up…

I’ve never had a mult-track analog machine (other than an old Tascam 2340 which I still have .. After my Dokorder and then my Tascam I went to my ADATS.. I started with a soundcraft 16 track analog board, moved to a Mackie 2408 (which thinking back, sounded great).. from there I went to a Yamaha 02r and finally the Sony DMXr100.. For some reason I just cant get the hang of mixing in the box.. for some reason I just need the faders …

I’ve used Soundforge for years as a 2 track editor and mix to it for my masters..

I should start to get use to Vegas for more mixing Im not sure what I would do if the console dies, they took the DMXr100 off the market years ago.. the guys at Sony are still great on Tech Support, but the parts will start to get hard to find and very expensive… Maybe I’ll just retire 🙂

We live just east of Nashville and love it.. but, with all the musicians in town it seems like there is a studio on every corner.. and the market is fairly tough…

I’m trying to get this project finished up I am working on, once that is finished I can do a little investigation on what is going on… I’ll post more when I get some info..

[Dave Kirkey]

Good Morning Ted.. sounds like we have allot in common for sure 🙂 I started recording in the 70’s also while going to college, I could not afford a console so I designed, bread boarded and built my own 8 channel mixer on my kitchen table.. my brother in law cut up some lumber and I used a piece of lexan as the top… I purchased some nice 4″ Vu meters… it looked real 🙂 st the time I used an old 2 track Dokorder reel to reel. In the early 80’s I purchased a Tascam 8 track cassette recorder.. that was fun then found the ADAT’s

I am going to get in to the set up this week and try several changes and see what might be happening. ON this particular project I had allot of editing to do (not my norm) and every time I edited the track of course you have to render to.. perhaps I screwed something up there… This is the first time that it was so noticeable … I have all the Veg files and original files on the computer still I may even go back and look at the history …

I do know that the clock on the HD24 is off (very, very slightly) at 44.1, but feeding it a clock from my Lucid System clock should put it right on…like I said, I feed all my digital gear with the same clock…

My problem with the complete digital set up is that if I clock at 48k and everything is sync’d together that when I re sample to 44.1 and try to play it back I have to change my whole system to 44.1 to listen.. (of course my other option would to be is to hook up a Analog connection to the board and listen that way…. but I think the computer is still locked at 48k if I do that…. Sometime I just wish I had stayed all analog..

Where aer you located Ted… I am in the Nashville area..

[Dave Kirkey]

Ted, thanks for the reply… I started recording years ago when the ADATS were known as blackface and were 16 bit.., went to the 20bit xt when they came out and got the HD24 the first week they were introduced by Alesis.. ( I was told I got the first one sold in the USA)…. I love it, I actually have 2 of them and they have been bullet proof..

I use to track everything at 48k but the hassle with everything digital and having to take everything to 44.1 in the end I just decided to track at 44.1 … I bought the house clock years ago and every has been just fine and locking with that..

I also have a BRC but quit using it, I just do not need it in my set up … actually if you use a house clock, set the BRC to external sync the BRC and recorders will lock to it just fine.. you do loose the display .. but, I’m not using it right now..

When I record everything is fine, when I play back the tracks with the HD24 through the console, every thing seems fine.. When I move the tracks (digitally with the fireport not the optical cables) to the computer it seems fine.. it is after I edit and clean up the tracks (removing noise, lining up vocals exec) and then “Render As” a new 44.1 24bit mono file to go back to the HD 24 does the track seem changed.

I am wondering (and Sony has been unable to answer me) if when you have a file (44.1 mono 24 bit) and edit it in Vegas then Render it what is it doing .. there is no reason for it to convert the files at all .. they are already 44.1 24 bit and all I do is some light edits.. I do not use any FX I would think it should not affect the files … There is no Save as feature like in Soundforge… but you have to render to a new track each file one edited…

It is a mystery to me what is happening.. and until I find out what is going on… I am going to think twice about editing at this point.. it really seemed to affect the sound of the instruments this time…

Hopefully someone on here will be doing a similar operation with Vegas and chime in on what they hear.. or what Vegas actually does when it renders..

[Dave Kirkey]

Thanks for the reply Lance.. I was told that the notebook I am looking at has windows 7 pro 64 but then I was told I could order windows 7 32 for $5.00 .. I am looking at what would be the best way to dual boot the system and If I can actually have 32 and 64 bit on 2 partitions…

In speaking with a few folks on different audio forums I am not sure if a quad core for multi-track audio may not give me much more than the 2gHZ Intel Core Duo processor I currently use.. I think I am going to load up this notebook with a bunch of tracks and plug ins and see where it gets plugged up….. A new notebook would be fun, but a real hassle to change everything over.

I see your heavily in to film work and I’ll bet the quad core really helps…. I do not do any video other than a few single camera shoots from time to time of my wife performing in local theater or singing at a gig…

As for California I moved there in 1971, went to Golden West college and then started working in the electronics/computer fields. Semi retired in 97 and we decided to sell our place and move.. we choose the Nashville area for 3 reasons. No State Income Tax, Low Property costs and low property tax, Horse friendly area and Music… we just love it here and our escape in 2004 was the best thing we could have done.. We now live on a 25 Acre farm just 30 minutes from downtown Nashville and love it!