[Dan Gibling]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Did you not generate one in your export settings?”

I checked the boxes to generate an XML and ‘send to final cut pro’, but i did see anything happen – where did the xml go, did it get saved somewhere?

[Dan Gibling]

Hi Jeremy,

I am now locked with my offline and following your instructions to re-transcode to proRes 4444 in Red CineX pro, just hitting a few snags and wondered if you could enlighten me once more?

1) I export an XML from FCP and load in RedCineX Pro. it loads up fine.
2) I go through the timeline changing each clip to gamma space RedLog Film in the looks tab.
3) I then highlight all the clips and click on the export tab down the bottom and export using the ProRes 4444 codec which sets off the export saving to a unique folder on my HD

My question is, does this export process change the files I am viewing in my RedCineX timeline (which it doesnt seem to, they still point to the r3d files) and if not, how to I go about exporting an XML from RedCineX to FCP?

I understand I have now created the correct transcodes, but after the export, what is the process to get them back into my FCP timeline?

Also, if i have say two clips in my timeline of different parts of the same r3d file (of which I have many) the new exported transcodes seem to create a unique name for each in the export folder with the suffix _S001, _S002 etc. unless I get a timeline in RedCine X which references these exports, how does final cut reconnect to these changed clip names?

Many thanks, apologies for my ignorance!

Dan

[Dan Gibling]

this is great Jeremy, my understanding is increasing…

I do not use a broadcast monitor at home – frustratingly the iMac does not seem easily compatible with getting out of the baked in colour space when sending out to a monitor, so after much debate i realised most people viewing my work would do so on a mac or a PC from vimeo or youtube – so I grade to those screens only.

Transcoding to Red Log film gamma curve and sending to Colour sounds the way to go. I did like the red raw tools, but what is Rcxp like as a grading program? Is there the ability to grade secondaries, track vignettes etc? If not id rather stick with the program and procedures i am familiar with.

[Dan Gibling]

Jeremy,

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and impart your knowledge, it restores faith…

So working without Resolve or the like, and with what I have (FCP, Redcine-X pro and Colour) this is my intended workflow, could you let me know if ive understood correctly?:

Simple 1 or 2 layer sequence in fcp, export XML.
Open XML in Redcine-x Pro
Retranscode timeline to 2k Pro-Res 4444 and export XML
Open XML in FCP.
Send this sequence to colour and grade as normal.

So I am right in thinking I cant ‘create’ the kind of r3D files that I am used to grading in colour, that bring up the Red tab where i can change the ISO etc?

What are the ‘flat Log movies’ you speak of?

My output format will be 1080 Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) and a variety of compressed h264’s, nothing too high end.

Many thanks again Jeremy,

Dan

[Dan Gibling]

Yes thats correct, in Redcine-x. According to the DIT it was a very basic transcode, just selecting ProRes (lt), 25fp and 1920×1080 – leaving all other settings as they come.

Hope this helps.

[Dan Gibling]

Hi Sam,

Its not so much the use of an effect as the use of footage of film burns composited with your footage. There are lots of libraries of film burn footage, but a good free one can be found here along with instructions on how to composite – https://pierceproductions.org/blog/film-burn-effect/

I hope that helps.

Dan

[Dan Gibling]

Thanks for the info Gary – does this mean then that if i can get my project onto a computer that is running the most up to date version of final cut, that i should be able to export a full quality uncompressed / Prore quicktimes?

Will it be ok to import the files and lay them all out on my out-of-date FCP (unfortunatly i have to work within the restraints of what i have here at home – if i could afford to run the most up to date software i would be!), then save it to an external hard drive (along with all the QT files) and reopen the project on an up-to-date system just to do the export?

Many thanks,
Dan

[Dan Gibling]

Could it be something to do with the quicktime player? maybe the files are of better quality than i am actually viewing? When you say uncompressed is an exact copy of my FCP timeline, does the FCP timeline display the full quality files if all the RT settings are on high?

Does anyone else have any suggestions at all?

Many thanks,
Dan

[Dan Gibling]

Thanks for your prompt reply David,

alas no, i am using Export>Quicktime Movie – this is what has me confused, i shouldn’t be compressing anything.