[andy patterson] “Thunderbolt 2 is the same as PCIE 2.0 at four lanes. Many Graphics cards can exceed that. Thunderbolt 3 is better but the Mac Pro still does not have Thunderbolt 3.”
I think his point is that he can extend the life of his Mac Pro, not that it will match current technology.
[andy patterson] “Thunderbolt 3 is good but it does not have the same amount of bandwidth as PCIE 3.0 at 16 lanes. “
But perhaps there’s “good enough” for vast middle of niche market.
[andy patterson] “PC users can use Thunderbolt 3 as well so I don’t see your point or how you can do something I cannot.”
And PCs got there first this time. But depending on the number of devices you need to use and the need to move them from machine to machine, one may have a bit more flexibility given the number of ports.
[andy patterson] “Some things can be daisy chained others cannot because of bandwidth limitation of Thunderbolt 2. “
Which is why the number of ports is of value. A PC with one TB2 port will hit that limit sooner.
What happens with the next Mac Pro (if there is one) is speculative but my guess it’ll have multiple TB3 ports (and admittedly no idea how they’ll handle controllers/busses).
[andy patterson] “Even with Thunderbolt 3 you wouldn’t want to daisy chain two GTX 1080s. “
If there is a new Mac Pro I’m sure they’ll be multipole TB3 ports and value in daisy chaining.
[andy patterson] “All the PCs at the time of the Mac Pro 2013 had PCIE 3.0. Why not have PCIE and Thunderbolt 3? “
That would have been nice. I’m not sure the demand was there. It seems like a niche within a niche in the “professional” video market. The demand for high powered workstations is, at best stagnant. Apple is not pursuing that.
[andy patterson] “Having said that why would I want my graphics card outside of my computer? Why not just get an ITX case?”
Because you’d be able to move it from desktop to laptop as needed.
What does the median professional need? TB3 may be enough. Multiple TB3 ports may have more use especially when the same professional may need to move from desktop to laptop and may want to bring along eGPU, RAID, maybe Video in devices and maybe the ability to hook up whatever the client tosses in the mix without starting to unhook things to free up ports.