Craig Alan
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Here’s my guess. Correct me if I’m wrong. The school bought a bunch of Macs and a site license (hopefully) for FCP thinking that was what all it took to get teachers and, therefore, students up and running with video projects.
If they are Imacs the system drive will get corrupted unless you add external drives. If they are Mac Pros, did they buy extra internal drives? Is there enough ram?
So, Morgan, you are being asked to help some teachers get up and running. There is no way to try to cover professional level editing in three days. Have them bring in footage on tape or card if they have some. Ask them to bring in the camera that it was shot with and the power cord for the camera. Make sure to have firewire cables ready.
You’ll need an admin account. Explain to school admin that this is needed. Teach them how to set up user accounts so they can log in and their work won’t be trashed by students. Don’t do it for them. They’ll need to do this as they teach their students.
Help them log in the footage. Don’t do it for them! Show them how. If there are no media drives then limit the project to 5 minutes. Explain to the school that extra drives are needed or their investment is a waste of money.
Teach them to name and store their projects on the system drive and the media externally or on a media drive internally on a tower. Teach them to label their tapes or cards. Teach them how to back up card based footage on hard drives and how to reformat cards after they know their footage is copied in at least two places. Show them how to back up their project files on a flash drive.
Show them the four basic windows and how they interact. Show them how to: add a sequence to the timeline, set in and out points, insert and ripple, transitions and handles, use an extra track of audio so they can add music and/or a V.O., auto-color correct in 3 way, add titles and sub-titles in Boris – just very basic, adjust sound levels.
Show them how to export a self-contained QT and bring it in to compressor and then how to burn the DVD in DVD studio pro as an auto-play DVD.
This is all most classes will need for student projects. If they really want to become editors recommend the fcp certification training book or anything by Wolsky or the other teachers here on the cow. I like Wolsky’s clarity but that’s personal choice.
Leave them detailed step by step review of each of the lessons you’ve taught them. My guess is you’ll run out of time. But if a percentage of them can learn enough so their students can produce simple videos with titles, subtitles, a sound track, and adjust exposure and sound levels and get the DVD burned and/or posted on the web it will be a huge success.
As far as professional courses that charge $1500 for 3 day workshops … I highly recommend that anyone taking them have their own system and training manuals at home and study before during and after the course to keep up. You don’t learn this stuff in three days! And you forget it if you don’t practice.
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I determined there was some sort of interference where I had it set up. With the same settings in a different location the audio sounded fine and the RTN to the mixer did as well. No need for higher than noon position, but it does pretty much stop getting any louder after. Oh my mixer, by contrast, I often have it lower than noon and higher will blast your ears off.
I plan to record xlr in form the mixer while capturing the visual HDMI from the SONY.
Any estimation on the next firmware update? Would really like firewire to computer implemented.
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Update went fine.
When playing back a clip on-line I plugged my headphone in and it sounded pretty good. Again the volume peaked at 12:00 on the dial but quality was good.
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Thanks. I’ll print it out and give it a try
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Thank you,
The switch was set correctly. The sound devices 302 sends a line level signal. When the mike was plugged directly into the ki pro the switch was set to phantom power since the mike needs that.
Either way the headphone amp seemed weak. It seems to reach its loudest level at 12 o’clock on the dial. Which is fine except it does not seem to power the headphone well. When I was sending the headphone signal back to the mixer via RTN it also sounded weak.
However I’m more concerned with final quality. Does the Ki pro record higher quality audio when the signal is sent directly to the Ki Pro from the mixer (analog) or if the signal is passed through the SONY via HDMI?
The SONY is a HDV cam and HDV has weak audio characteristics and I was hoping the Ki Pro could improve on this as it does the video. If I am going HDMI out am I bypassing this compression?
It’s hard for me to find the time during the day since I teach 6 hours but if need be I’ll get to it.
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Ty,
I thought the title of my post and the previous post that I was contacting them implied the source.
In any case, do you agree with what they are saying?
What is the difference between the limiter and output attenuation?
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Sound Devices Tech support
I gather you have some issues with it?
What is the difference between the limiter and output attenuation?
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On a forward note, whenever you are sending signal to a camera and want more headroom, use the setup menu and add a few dB of output attenuation. Using the limiter is not a proper way of setting levels. The limiters are only (and should only be) used as a safety net for clipping. If one can maintain good input levels, have the limiters active and never hit them in a full day of production, the limiters were used properly. With a proper method of gain staging this is 100% possible.
Back to the original question: It is always best practice to mix with the ears and not the eyes. If you want to see the PFL signal on the meter, you will want to hear them too. So, the options are:
1) The monitor switch will tell the HP what to output and the meters what to display OR
2) The monitor switch will only send the selected signal to the HP and the meters will always stay on ST.There is no way to see a signal being metered on the LED and not be able to hear it unless that signal is the ST output with the limiter attenuation applied. With proper gain staging applied to the signal flow, this works perfectly every single time. If you camera’ audio circuitry is easily overloaded, apply output attenuation and monitor the 302 output. Use the camera return as a momentary reference and return to monitoring the output of the 302. This is the most effective way of controlling the signal.
The final option would be to plug your HP directly into the camera. This way you could do what you are wanting to. Not recommended though.
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Thanks. I’m going to try to work this out with Sound Devices. If not, it’s a feature request. All that said, the meters look fine on the Sony and they sound fine on input, on output, and monitoring from the Sony.
And although I’m kinda back to where I started, it is with a lot better understanding of how the mixer works.
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