Chris Kenny
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[Michael Hancock] “[Chris Kenny] “Because it can’t contain or be contained by other events. It’s not a generic hierarchical container for data, the way a folder is. It’s a flat collection of data organized using metadata and saved queries.”
Sounds like a bin to me.”
Oh, sure, with the minor details that bins can be nested, items inside bins aren’t organized according to metadata, and bins don’t contain saved queries.
Had the word ‘bin’ not had any previous meaning in the NLE context, I think its dictionary definition is sufficiently generic (“a receptacle for storing a specified substance”) that it could have been used in place of ‘Event’. But that wasn’t the case.
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[Sean Thomas] “Has anyone tried running FCP X on a NON OpenCL card?”
FCP X does not appear to have a non-OpenCL rendering pipeline. I haven’t seen any reports of success from people who’ve convinced it to install on machines lacking OpenCL-compatable cards. I’ve seen a few reports that it will launch, but no video is displayed.
[Sean Thomas] “If it is impossible to run on a NON OCL card – what would be a good replacement
for the ATI X1900 XT. Will ANY PCIe OCL video card work?”It has to be a Mac card. The official answer to “I want an OS X compatable graphics card that’s really good at GPGPU calculations” is the Quadro 4000. But there are also several shops (that mostly sell on eBay) that will flash other cards like the GTX 285 for Mac compatibility. The 285 actually has more cores than the Quadro 4000, performs better (at least in Resolve), and is substantially cheaper.
We bought one from here last year to use with Resolve, and it has been rock solid.
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[Herb Sevush] “Why is an Event not equivalent to a folder? “
Because it can’t contain or be contained by other events. It’s not a generic hierarchical container for data, the way a folder is. It’s a flat collection of data organized using metadata and saved queries.
[Herb Sevush] “Also, can you open an Event with the finder, and if so what types of files do you see?”
Events are obviously represented using Folders in the Finder, and can be opened. OS X has a hierarchical file system — obviously Events live in folders at some level. Everything lives in a folder at some level even in iOS, which has no user-facing file system.
What you see when you open an Event in the Finder is not what you see when you view one in FCP X. Consider the iTunes library, as a point of reference. If it’s set to iTunes, organizes your iTunes Library on disk by content type and artist name. Does that mean artist names are, conceptually, folders in iTunes? Does it mean the iTunes library itself is conceptually a folder? No. That’s just the on-disk representation.
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[Herb Sevush] “An event implies a singular continuous occurrence, that’s why people who do weddings and such are called Event Planners. Documentary shoots, feature film productions and many other productions are totally discontinuous and in no real way can be thought of as an “event.””
The word ‘Event’ is more generic than you’re making it out to be.
Moreover, you’re assuming narrative features and documentaries should group all footage for the whole project into a single event. Why? Events could be shooting days for a narrative feature, or could contain footage for specific occurrences (e.g. “Inauguration Day Footage”) for a documentary, and your entire project would pull footage from multiple events.
[Herb Sevush] “How about “folder?””
An Event isn’t conceptually equivalent to a folder, it’s conceptually equivalent to a database. I suppose Apple could have called them ‘Databases’, but they probably thought that was a little too geeky.
Mind you, it would be nice to be able to organize events into ‘folders’, particularly if you have multiple events primarily associated with a single project. But this is not an especially egregious omission for a 1.0 release.
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[Herb Sevush] “Movie Premieres, Awards or Live televised concert are actual “events” – that is something that happens in one time and place.”
The most general (and, based on a survey of three dictionaries, the first) definition of an event is simply ‘a thing that happens’. Source footage records things that have happened. (Or, if you want to be really pedantic, it depicts things that appear to have happened.)
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[Herb Sevush] “The only way it seems to make sense is in the way you laid it out – “What is the Event that you want to make your movie about? – your kids birthday, your trip to Spain, etc.” A very youtube way to think of video production.”
People are reading far too much into this naming. The word “Event” can refer to anything that is bounded in time, and virtually all video shoots start and end at specific points in time.
I think they’re mostly called ‘Events’ because what else were they going to be called? Projects? But they’re not, since they only contain source media. Libraries? And the thing that holds them is now called the Library Library? Collections? But they contain things called Collections. Archives? Vaults? Those feel like they’d be related to backup, not material you’re actively working with. Hey, if the thing you put them in is called a Library, and they hold items, maybe they could be called Shelves? Well, no, nobody thinks of organizing source media on shelves. Bins? Those are something else.
‘Events’ is not an ideal word, but there doesn’t really seem to be a better one.
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[Gary Huff] “So as a “pro”, you’re okay with telling a client, “Sorry, I can’t deliver on DVD like you asked, but I can get you a YouTube-ready version!””
No, I’ll use another tool. Your implicit argument here seems to be that Apple doesn’t care about pros because they don’t offer a DVD authoring tool, which some pros need. But this makes no sense. Does Adobe not care about pros because they don’t offer a 3D app? Does Autodesk not care about pros because they focus on online tools and don’t offer offline tools? It’s not necessary for any one particular company to offer a tool in every category.
Incidentally, our clients regularly ask for web-ready encodes of projects these days. Virtually always for the short films and music videos we work on, and usually for feature film trailers as well. The sneering “Oh, this is only for teenagers” tone regarding FCP X’s strong support for web exports is ludicrous. Internet video is import these days, and pros work with it all the time.
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Final Cut Express was always promoted this way, and the FCP X product replaces both FCP and FCE. I’m not sure why anyone would be surprised by the existence of this page. (Which has been there since FCP X launched, by the way.)
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Yeah, right. Tagging, a key feature of virtually every modern social networking/media platform, is only for “OCD asbergers” types. Also, apparently, for soccer moms, since aren’t they the target audience for FCP X?
These objections seem to get sillier by the day.
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[Gary Huff] “I think what he is saying is that instead of easily scrubbing through footage, where it might be possible to miss a shot or just not grasp the entirety of it, he prefers to have to really dig through it so that he is intimately familiar with all of it, should some really small and seemingly mundane shot/segment/take/ect turn out to be really important.”
That’s not my reading of what’s being said. It doesn’t account for the apparent antipathy being expressed toward keywording features.
Anyway, it’s kind of silly to argue that FCP X is worse because if gives you the option of scrubbing through footage more efficiently.
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