Chris Kenny
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “Mean I know Chris, I took her out of context, but sure, selective quotations are seductive.”
Um… that’s not a selective quotation it’s a misattributed one. I’m not sure what you’re playing at here.
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Chris Kenny
July 15, 2011 at 4:17 am in reply to: WOW – Apple promotes how to switch from imovie to FCP[Aindreas Gallagher] “I might look twice at the blood vessels of the timeline, how alive that thing actually is beneath the stupid chrome, I might ask deep questions of a company that produces a form of interaction so hairs breadth dead to your hand in editing narrative, how stupid a company is to have clips half heavy in your hand, making moronic animations on their own time, i might really look long and hard at that company and wonder if they knew what the hell they were doing at all – if there was actual competence at all. I find the physicality of the timeline annoys me, and i find that those who got it thrown to them as a task – was it the itunes team? I find that I bear them no ill well, but it is a joke of the first order all this, “
People said extremely similar things about the GUI animations in OS X. Or GUIs in generally, for that matter.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “chris – for kicks – take FCP7, take this thing X – do you actually like how the clip feels in your hand now? I don’t.”
On my 2007 MacBook Pro? No. On the Mac Pro in our online suite at work? Yes. I find the interface to be extremely fluid on sufficiently quick hardware.
When you consider that Apple was designing for the next 10 years, a decision to ship a UI that was less than ideally responsive on some currently deployed hardware makes a certain amount of sense. Apple did the exact same thing with the initial release of OS X.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “look – this feels nihilistic, because it feels like a – throw up your hands moment – we are basically clinging to meta data and Apple’s super duper long term intentions for VA handling to convince ourselves that this is a professional application – it’s why we are arguing so hard – we’re screaming around this thing and the truth is it’s organised like iphoto, it presents imovie’s timeline, the clip connections have no resonance or meaning really.
God but why did they come to NAB?
Really though, why – why – did they do that?”
You’re making a large number of subjective and/or poorly justified statements and telling yourself they add up to an argument.
You know why Apple showed up at NAB? You know why they introduced this as the successor to FCP 7? You know why FCP X has features (and a price point) that would make no sense for an actual consumer app?
Because Apple intends for this platform to the the future of video editing.
They’re taking a risk. They may not succeed. There will probably be short-term losses. But people who claim Apple is retreating to the ‘consumer’ market are arguing that this must be so because Apple couldn’t possibly believe they could redefine ‘pro’ editing this much. I think this seriously underestimates Apple’s ambition.
(The above position will be treated as crazy in this forum, but it fits the available facts better than the “Apple is abandoning pros” position, and is consistent with the general scope of Apple’s ambitions in markets it enters.)
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[Michael Hancock] “No you didn’t. You said “It’s a flat collection of data organized using metadata and saved queries.” How is that different than a bin, other than the saved queries? You name clips, they have timecode, you add comments and custom metadata, you sort them by that data, you search them by that data. I was doing that in Avid for years and they’re constantly expanding on it. You can do most of that in FCP7. “
Bins are not organized using metadata. They can contain items that have metadata and can be sorted by metadata, but this is not the same thing. It’s like the difference between the Finder and iTunes. The former is built around the concept of a single canonical hierarchical organization for your data. The latter supports ad-hoc organization based on metadata.
Actually, FCP X is even more metadata-oriented than iTunes. iTunes allows songs to be placed on playlists independently of any metadata they have attached. FCP X has no equivalent of this; the only way to associate items with each other inside an event is through common metadata.
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[Tom Wolsky] “Actually no, I’ll correct that. It was a perfectly reasonable discussion until you joined.”
Which you’ve demonstrated conclusively by calling what I said “bullshit” without explanation, I suppose.
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[Tom Wolsky] “That’s because the rest of the discussion, of which I was party to before you joined it, is complete bullshit.”
Well, who could argue with such a well-reasoned position?
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[Tom Wolsky] “It’s an event because it’s an event in iMovie. It’s an event in iMovie because it’s an event, Johnny’s birthday.”
It’s super helpful when someone posts a reply many levels deep into a thread that doesn’t acknowledge any of the previous discussion.
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It’s kind of hilarious that Avid claims 80% of pros use Avid, while Apple showed a chart at the Supermeet saying FCP X dominates among broadcast and post house customers and even Premiere has recently surpassed Avid.
It goes to show you how meaningless the “pro” term is. You can produce any result you want by defining it in a way that suits your needs.
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[Michael Hancock] “Bin has a very clear meaning to most editors. Event doesn’t. Why change terminology when they do essentially the same thing? It’s confusing and seems completely unnecessary.”
It doesn’t do essentially the same thing. I just explained that.
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Chris Kenny
July 15, 2011 at 2:13 am in reply to: WOW – Apple promotes how to switch from imovie to FCPYour post contains no criticism specific enough to actually respond to.
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