Chris Harlan
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Part of my reactions are probably because I work at the extreme end of transfer issues, which would be action oriented broadcast promos–a lot of 7 to 10 frame cuts, a lot of very chaotic action in very short bursts, a lot of speed manipulation, and messing with size. And, I spend a lot of time looking at both foreign and domestic versions, so I’ve come to make a lot of editing choices based on how it will look in both worlds. All of this probably makes me hyper-conscious of the issues.
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[Steve Connor] “[Chris Harlan] “It’s not that unusual for talking heads to look passable with the 5 missing frames a second, and in the case of NTSC/PAL, the bump in size. Of course a swing of the neck or bob of the head can toss that right out. Machine transfer is still the best, and even that ain’t that great. But I cut a lot of action, so I’m very–perhaps overly–sensitive to it.
”I released an NTSC version of a PAL airshow DVD this year with some very fast moving footage in. I simply dropped the PAL master into an NTSC project, conformed the speed using optical flow and it looked great. I’d been using the Nattress converter in FCP7 which is superb, but I think the results in X were slightly better.
“I find PAL to NTSC ver do-able. It even works relatively well in FCP 6-7. I’ve done a lot of Sizzle reels that mix both in the timeline. It is going the other way–NTSC to PAL, where you are losing frames and gaining pixels–that is the real issue.
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[Michael Sanders] “A static talking head..
It wasn’t the shots – its the fact I didn’t even notice that got me..
“It’s not that unusual for talking heads to look passable with the 5 missing frames a second, and in the case of NTSC/PAL, the bump in size. Of course a swing of the neck or bob of the head can toss that right out. Machine transfer is still the best, and even that ain’t that great. But I cut a lot of action, so I’m very–perhaps overly–sensitive to it.
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[Herb Sevush] “The earth’s atmosphere is changing, if you can believe those crazy scientists, but it’s not changing for the better for me. Does that make me someone who hates change, or just someone who has a house by the shore?
“What a marvelous line.
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[Floris van Eck] “FCP X is one of the best applications I ever used. So much attention to the details. To me, it makes Premiere and Avid look like a toy. “
Wow. Then you need a new pair of glasses, Floris. You aren’t by any chance named after the Dutch TV show, are you?
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[Chris Harlan] “[Daniel Rutledge] “The only thing that we seem to disagree about is what the future of editing tools will be. Since it is all opinion, then it is impossible to resolve.
”No. I haven’t even discussed that with you. The only thing I’ve discussed at all related to this is the practicality of a working editor making extra-long term decisions about his tools in a world that changes far to quickly for that.
“To be fair, we also discussed touch screen interfaces, where my comments were pretty much limited to the fact that I don’t like them as much as I once thought I would.
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[Daniel Rutledge] “Chris, I don’t want to go back and forth about this indefinitely. “
Dude, you keep thinking I’m arguing with you, and I’m not. I’ve read and re-read my last response to try and understand your last post, but I can’t. For the most part, I agreed with you, and where I didn’t I noted that it was for me, or for myself and the people I work with. In general, through this thread, you’ve misunderstood a number of things I’ve said, as well as misquoting me and attributing to me a number of sentiments that I just don’t have. Granted, some of that could be the fault of the communicator, but it is my opinion that you read way too much into things.
[Daniel Rutledge] “It seems like you took it to mean that any criticism was wrong and that even though you had legitimate criticisms, I was dismissing them as invalid. Although I may not share all of your points of view, I never called any of your concerns illegitimate.”
I don’t know how you got to that, but I’ve gone back through the entire thread, and I’m pretty sure that’s in your head, not in mine. Frankly, it feels like you are having a discussion with someone else, and I seem to be along for the ride.
[Daniel Rutledge] “The only thing that we seem to disagree about is what the future of editing tools will be. Since it is all opinion, then it is impossible to resolve.
“No. I haven’t even discussed that with you. The only thing I’ve discussed at all related to this is the practicality of a working editor making extra-long term decisions about his tools in a world that changes far to quickly for that.
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[Daniel Rutledge] “My point isn’t that FCP X will be useful in ten years. In ten years there will be some guy on creative cow lamenting the demise of the seemingly iriplaceable magnetic timeline. In ten years X will be ready for retirement.”
I guess that’s a possibility.
[Daniel Rutledge] “FCP 8 isn’t coming. X isn’t what I was expecting either, but I have enough respect for the substantial investment it took to develop it to give it a chance to succeed on its own merits.”
It’s succeeding already. A number of people are happy with it. For me, and the community I work in, it would be a poor choice. Whether Apple has any interest getting that community back is a matter of much debate. My guess is that it doesn’t particularly care. Of course, I’d love to be shown that I’m wrong.
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[Bob Cole] “This would be such a massive climb-down for Apple. It is hard to envision the company culture allowing for it.
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True, that. It would be even harder than admitting that there might be a valid reason for a mouse having more than one button.
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[David Lawrence] “‘m also convinced the timing corresponds to AppleInsider’s article a year before release about the layoffs in Pro Apps. I know Apple PR claims these were all “support” people but the evidence of the release suggests otherwise.”
Oh yeah. There’s plenty of other evidence as well. Pete Warden, who spent years on the FCP team, and knew most of the people who were laid off, blogged and tweeted about it at the time. He made and still makes the claim that it was a chunk of the development team that was laid off. I tend to believe him over what Steve Jobs had to say later.
https://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000083-264.html
https://twitter.com/#!/petewarden/status/9014940274
https://www.macnn.com/articles/10/02/19/affects.signature.apple.pro.level.software/