Chris Harlan
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “But I have to agree with Aindreas that it is missing info. Its probably info that many people don’t see or use when they are looking at waveforms, but its there.”
Make sure the “Show reference waveforms” option is checked in the prefs.
“So there is a way to look at the full waveform? Cool!
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[Steve Connor] “I know it’s just a low budget short but some may find it interesting”
Looks interesting. I stopped at my pet peeve though, which is binoculars. Whenever anyone does a binocular POV as two distinct round holes it drives me batty. Haven’t they ever looked through them before?
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[Craig Seeman] “[Chris Harlan] “I’m just disputing the assertion that facilities aren’t finding either MC or Pr compelling. These facilities have been going through the same worldwide recession that everyone else has. What’s not compelling is spending a lot of money when it doesn’t have to be spent. It makes perfect sense that people aren’t buying en masse.”
Compelling, to me, are not features divorced from economics. There’s not great motive to spend and that’s the point. This also means an impact on Adobe and Avid … and this is really really bad for Avid. For Adobe it buys them more time to make the economics compelling. Actually this too for Apple although they have an entirely different business model.
One would have to see a real cost benefit gain to move to another NLE. In this economic climate it’s harder. The cost benefit gains of moving to either Avid or Adobe are not compelling (and not to Apple either for that matter).
“I’m sorry, Craig, if I misunderstood you. I took your earlier post when you said that it was “telling” that many facilities weren’t upgrading to either Pr or MC to mean that they had judged MC or Pr not to be compelling NLE platforms and might instead be waiting for X to evolve. That is the notion I’m arguing against.
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[Steve Connor] “[Aindreas Gallagher] “are you saying you don’t find that vector crud way, way worse than the audio waveforms in 7?”
Absolutely not, I actually find them much easier to work with. I’m sure other users may agree.
“My problem with them–and it very well may be that I just don’t know how to read it well yet–is that I loose a tad too much in the way of information. With the baseline as zero, how to you decipher any of the qualities you can discern from wave asymmetry? How do you see DC Offset or asymmetrical clipping? The variance of the wave below the baseline from above often tells me distinct things about harmonics, and occasionally lets me recognize where I might have issues that aren’t immediately apparent on the laptop speakers I’m currently using. At a glance, the full wave drawing can often set apart music from dialog–again because of unique asymmetric patterns–and visually clarify the difference between a bass drum and a whistle.
Now, this is not a deal breaker, and I realize that most people use the waveform almost exclusively to find a place to cut, and to monitor amplitude, but there are good reasons for displaying the full wave, which is why most everyone else does so. And, as I’ve said, it may also be that I just cant read this yet. I probably haven’t given it enough time. But I have to agree with Aindreas that it is missing info. Its probably info that many people don’t see or use when they are looking at waveforms, but its there.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “[Steve Connor] “Pot, Kettle etc”
Steve,
Haven’t we already had the “This forum needs a new name” post for this month?
Franz.”
LOL. I’d go with it. Especially if the Etc. were part of the title!
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[Neil Goodman] “Avid is a huge market out here, and while you may not be seeing any moves in your area, all the facilities i know who were Avid are staying Avid, and all the fcp 7 facilities are either staying put for now, or moveing to Avid. Thats what im seeing in LA, and one could argue, thats a very big market, that makes up a big chunk of the professional world.
“A few quibbles from the same pond. I can’t say their name, but I know of a particular cable network who is shifting their whole promo department from Avid to Premiere. I also know of a medium-sized promo house, that specializes in games, that’s moving from 7 to Premiere. I’m also feeling pressure from some of the Creative Directors I work with to go Premiere on their projects. That said, I agree that Avid is, by far, our local big fish. Which is good, because it is terrific editing software, and now, finally, ubiquitous. I don’t think its whale status is in any danger here at all in the Southland. Premiere, though, is finally here too.
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[Craig Seeman] “[Chris Harlan] “They are just doing it on their own calendar.”
We’ll have to see how 2013 progresses. “Calendar” has real factors like financial both short and long term. Sales have a way of changing over time until the purchase is made. Basically, in both my past work with facilities and developers, only the tangible really counts because a large portion of “advance intentions” do really shift between road map and actualization.
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Sure. I agree with all of that. I’m just disputing the assertion that facilities aren’t finding either MC or Pr compelling. These facilities have been going through the same worldwide recession that everyone else has. What’s not compelling is spending a lot of money when it doesn’t have to be spent. It makes perfect sense that people aren’t buying en masse.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “I think smoke is overkill for a promo department. Premiere combined with a fully tooled up After Effects with all the trapcode stuff and magic bullet is probably a better, cheaper fix. you get a broader price competitive skills pool to draw from too.
“Undoubtedly. Especially when you can more easily add print and Internet departments into the support mix. For years, I’ve had numerous Creative Directors, most of whom are or were AE folk, ask me “Why not Premiere?” There used to be a lot of valid answers. Now there aren’t. Over the last year “Why not Premiere?” has become a pretty good question.
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[Michael Sanders] “But you will start to get asked if you can cut on it I’m sure. As the word spreads and people see it in action it will infect like a virus.”
There are some pretty serious antibodies out there.
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[Craig Seeman] “That the bulk of the facilities are holding on to FCP6,7 is telling. Neither Avid nor Adobe is yet a compelling economic proposition.
“That’s not what I’m seeing. People are just taking their time to change. Nearly everybody I talk to, though, has an idea of where they are going by now. They are just doing it on their own calendar.