Chris Harlan
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Definitely. If someone declares “this is the way this business is, or is going to be,” and you, as a professional don’t see it that way, you have every right–and, perhaps, responsibility–to make clear your disagreement. People who look to our ramblings to help them form some vaguely accurate picture of the workplace deserve that.
I DO understand why FCP X users bristle because of this forum, and their is probably validity in the complaint that there is no “or not” forum for any other NLE. It tends to color what has become a general debate forum on the future of NLEs and the businesses around them. Maybe if the name were gone, the defenders would not feel so offended.
As to the odd double standard you mention; yes, I’ve experienced it myself. Frankly, I think all of the harsh criticism that X has received over the last year and a half as been very good for it. I know that the faithful tend to be one with the notion that Apple had and will always have a Pro plan for FCP, and that if we can’t see it… Well, we just don’t have enough faith. I don’t believe that. I believe “the Pro in all of us” is the driving force behind X, and that if there hadn’t been such an outcry FCP X would be nowhere near where it is today. I know that the COW has just been one of many tiny squeaky wheels, but I think all of the rants and ALL CAPS discussions have been important.
Where are you now by the way? Is it Avid or Premiere? Or both? It’s both for me, though I’m liking Avid so much more than I ever thought I would. And, hey–maybe someday X; I keep watching it.
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[Walter Soyka] “[Oliver Peters] “One interesting “best of both worlds” is the Waves VocalRider plug-in, which works fine in FCP X. It was $79-$99 during the holiday sales deals. https://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=9945”
And thus, this terrible, horrible, no good, very bad thread has yielded something that’s equally off-topic and valuable.”
There we are!
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[Bret Williams] “Seems like I had a problem once going back, and I always see Shane recommending you duplicate cuz you can’t go back. “
I always duplicate everything anyway, out of an abundance of caution and cheap disk space.
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I’ve always wanted to try it. If I wander back to PCs, I certainly will.
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John, that’s very nice of you to say. I DO think that it might be time to reformat this forum, though I don’t know if the powers that be will go for it. The other problem, too, is that while a change of focus might improve the experience on this forum, it might also unleash a bit more negativity in the Techniques Forum then members there might like. X or Not does tend to act as a deflecting magnet.
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[Steve Connor] “[Oliver Peters] “I think most of us are guilty of helping to throw some of these discussions wildly off topic and let them devolve into arguments.”
The OT bit is what makes this place so fascinating
“Highly agreed. Its time for the lounge. I think a refocusing and a name change is in order. I’ve learned so much from this forum, in terms of it being an advanced discussion group.
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[Craig Seeman] “Craig Slattery mentions other editors gaining interest and then that’s refuted. That kind of response is too common.”
I really don’t want to get into this whole thing, because I think its all a ridiculous argument, but to be fair, I don’t think you are representing Craig’s relationship to either X or this forum accurately. Craig is VERY enthusiastic about X, and, in his enthusiasm, has made some rather bold statements about the future of X. He goes a good bit beyond talking about how useful it is or how much he likes or how well it works for him to making some strong prognostications about its future. And, these prognostications, whether insightful or full of fancy, are often put forward with an emphasis that I, personally, would hesitate to attach to the hypothetical. And, that’s okay. There’s a lot of hyperbole here. But, making those kind of statements opens you up for challenge. And, challenge is what he got. He seems pretty tough to me; I think he can handle it.
I think this forum HAS served its primary purpose, as least as I see it. Few people will mistake the editing program called FCP X for an upgraded version of another NLE suite, the soon to be defunct FCS. I think everyone can see that they are very different animals now, and frankly, that is what has always been important to me–that people’s choices are clear. I think the point has been made.
The best part of this forum has mutated into something well beyond “X or not,” and we might now be nearing the time to make the transition complete. I have a lot of friends here, which is why I keep coming back. Sadly, some of them are not. I enjoy talking with John and Jim, and I wish they didn’t think of this as an alien place. I think of this an editor’s lounge, and I think I’d be happier if it officially became that. We can still fight about stuff–in fact, we’d be remise if we didn’t–but I think FCP X has worn the scarlet letter long enough.
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[Bill Davis] “[Chris Harlan] “in the silly slap-fest that seems to have ensued.”
Geez, I’m already WAY too old for Cochilla, so the thought of attending slap-fest is, like, totally out of the question.
“Oh, yeah. Bill, you’re a ninja slap-fest master and you know it. 3rd Degree black belt, I do believe.
[Bill Davis] “BTW, I really like your new picture. It’s kinda comforting to joust with a human as opposed to an anthropomorphized ornament. Well done sir!
“I only put the Christmas ornament up because I was following Jeremy’s command.
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[Steve Connor] “[Chris Harlan] “Wait a second. You told me that the Veep was like your puppet, and that getting him to make the current Current TV deal was like step one in your plan to take X to a planetary level in time to welcome our new reptilian masters, just before they shed their human skins and take full control.”
and Aindreas has been sent here to stop them?
““I would guess. Either in a TARDIS or on a Dalek mothership,” he said, wistfully trying to sound neutral in the silly slap-fest that seems to have ensued.
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[John Davidson] “You’re both right. I apologize to both of you if I had somehow made you think that I have direct mental control of any current or former elected officials of the Executive branch of United States, or that perhaps Apple somehow waits to make all decisions and announcements based off my recommendations.
Some, perhaps, but definitely not all.
“Wait a second. You told me that the Veep was like your puppet, and that getting him to make the current Current TV deal was like step one in your plan to take X to a planetary level in time to welcome our new reptilian masters, just before they shed their human skins and take full control. Or did I dream that? Or was that an episode of South Park?
It all gets so confusing.