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[Steve Connor]

I disagree, I think it’s very relevant here it’s a great case study of what made you choose FCPX.

Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

[Aindreas Gallagher]

That’s a pity John. I enjoyed reading about Al Gore and his role in the FCPX roadmap.

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[John Davidson]

Thanks Steve, I appreciate your opinion. My personal beliefs are that this forum is kind of an insult to users and it’s no wonder that the Apple support forums are where most people tend to go for problems and advice (tip of the hat to Tom Wolsky for almost always answering them). I understand this forum gets the cow hits but in order to do what we did I stopped coming to this forum for some time. The endless arguments are disheartening to those trying to learn. I would honestly read something in here and then look down and have to untangle my mind from the seemingly helpful debates that in reality had a sum total negative effect on learning.

It’s very un-cow, IMHO. I won’t support it with my work.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[John Davidson] “The endless arguments are disheartening to those trying to learn. “

give me a break – I attempted a vaguely, if verbose, half reasoned bit on the thread below, and in reply you took a hit on the fact I hit the space bar between sentences – I asked for a response, and you said you might come back with “a very elaborate counterpoint on Monday morning.”

thats your contribution John? Snickering rejoinders about paragraph breaks? thats where you are at?

Just to add – so your post just there since deleted, seemed to include your joy that former vice president Al Gore directly responded to your concerns at a select meeting, and that apple produced a road map the very next day – “awesome” as you say –

Anyway. Good work with the high hat.

let’s all enjoy your closing where you bemoan the lack of proper discourse:

[John Davidson] “The endless arguments are disheartening to those trying to learn. I would honestly read something in here and then look down and have to untangle my mind from the seemingly helpful debates that in reality had a sum total negative effect on learning.

It’s very un-cow, IMHO. I won’t support it with my work.
“

great work John. Way to run passive aggressive literally into the ground.

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[John Davidson]

https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/7142#7142

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

I can’t quite put my finger on it john, but somehow it feels a little different now.

then you were saying it was actually funny to consider you even had a role – now you are producing blog social media advertising for your company showing front and centre pictures of you and him – and declaring the result of that conversation “awesome”.

I just do not know John….. its tricky man.

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[Bill Davis]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “give me a break – I attempted a vaguely, if verbose, half reasoned bit on the thread below, and in reply you took a hit on the fact I hit the space bar between sentences – I asked for a response, and you said you might come back with “a very elaborate counterpoint on Monday morning.””

Aindreas,

Have you ever considered that one of the major problems here…might actually be you?

For reasons unknown, you simply find it impossible to accept any pro-FCP-X argument without thinly veiled derision and sometimes insane counter argument. Hell man, you spent yesterday trying to attack Craig – who’s great sin was indicating that he’s using X for his work for the BBC successfully.

Wow, what a massively evil concept. The guy uses it. Likes it. And tells people. How can we tolerate that?

Look, sometimes your incessant personal resentment about X is mostly cute and fun and dismissible.

And for some of us who have VERY thick skins – and enjoy forum sparring – it’s really not much of a problem.

But it’s also possible that many who could contribute greatly here simply won’t post because they’re concerned that if they post anything that they’ve done using the software that they feel is positive – they KNOW that posting about it here will open them to relentless ridicule.

Their choice, their feelings, their experiences will be instantly called to account and then instantly compared to other programs that do video BETTER, FASTER, and more PROFESSIONALLY with the implication that only FOOLS could possibly be buying into all the amateur and silly FCP-X hype.

In any other software forum on the internet that I’ve visited, it’s possible for the posters to say positive things about the tool they’ve chosen without fear of that kind of pointed dismissal. But not here.

Here. A positive post about X MUST be attacked.

And it’s tiresome.

And if it stays that way, eventually, everyone who uses X will move on. Because while, yeah, it’s sometimes fun to watch people yelling at each other. It’s really, really hard to learn in an environment like that.

What if X continues to evolve? What if they manage to shoehorn MORE features and capabilities into it – say for NAB in April? At what point does your historical “X is crap” brand go toxic? Or are you going to try to “pivot” by claiming that it was total crap up to some magic point where it suddenly became useful and acceptable? Maybe that will work for you.

I figured I’d point that out now so you can start working on a strategy for redemption in case you ever find yourself needing to use it -particularly if someone might stumble into the archive of all this babbling and tries to figure out why they should hire you in a few years to use a program you spent years arguing was totally useless.

Either that or just LIGHTEN UP, dude.

Just looking out for you in my own stupid way.

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[Oliver Peters]

No offense. It’s good for a fat laugh. If you seriously think Al Gore had any effect on the direction of FCP X, then I don’t know what to say.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Aindreas Gallagher]

I’m occasionally looking out for you too in my own way, bill.

I’m arguing against the software – I feel its fundamentally invalid.

I will propose or negate arguments to that effect.

FCPX is going to continue to be what it was – an anathema to the risks of editing.

again – so you are not unduly confused – this is not a forum to sell things with a sign off, or to position yourself to sell things in the future – it is a forum to debate the validity of FCPX as an editing construct.

In case you are confused bill, we are winning, it is our foot on the software’s neck, it is near dead and I will hold its head under the water for as long as it takes.

It is not valid software and I personally question your intellectual taste.

*sound effect as spit hits spittoon*

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

yes quite.

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