[Charley King]

[Bob Zelin] “there ARE NO CLEAR ANSWERS”

When I first heard that the world was going digital a couple days or was it a couple decades ago. I was so excited that the world was finally going to have one set standard for the entire world.

Well, that elation was soon blown to hell when the manufacturers started coming up with standards for their equipment and stating that would be their standard. Then The networks started jumping on certain manufacturers equipment bandwagons and stating if I am spending this much money this will be our standard. Then the transmission people got in on it and came up with more than one transmission standard, and now the world is divided into more standards than it had in the analog world.

Bob, I am right there with you, and this is one of many reasons I am retiring. Too Many Frikin standards, and that means there is no standard. You have to please every broadcaster with his little petty ideas. As to video levels. I still say you can’t go wrong if you adhere to the old original standards. No one ever rejected a tape because the PP levels were exactly 1 volt and not more.

The days of simple standards that were widely adhered to are gone, just take pride in the fact that you can still hold on to your values.

Charlie

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[Charley King]

[Jeff Bernstein] “If you look at the actual reasons for some of these specs, namely luminance capped at 100IRE, you will find that this was necessary because analog ‘birds’ or satellites have an issue where if that luminance goes over 100IRE, it bleeds into the audio subcarrier, which then causes an audio buzz. Similarly, the same thing could happen with B & W TVs with tube electronics (not just the CRT).”

This started long before there was a satellite other than the real moon. We had to watch video levels in B&W or the Transmitter would buzz and even in some instances kick off momentarily. Of course the color was started long before tyoe C 1″. Our old 2″ tapes could not handle chroma that high.

I believe in keeping standards not because someone told me to, but until someone tells me there is not 1 TV out there in the entire world that can not handle these signals, I will continue to produce with a standard of quality that I respect.

Oh by the way, I probably will not be producing much longer since I have decided to retire as of October 1 this year.

Charlie

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[Charley King]

I create my MPG2 transport streams with Vegas Video. the MPG codec for Vegas is super. The finished stream comes out as an M2T extension. Plays great on my players that require Transport stream encoding, instead of program stream encoding.

Charlie

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[Charley King]

Bob,
You referred to the linear editing days as the stone age, does that mean since I started in B&W Live, I am pre stone age?
This thread brought up something that happened sometime in the 60’s.
We had a tape turned down by one of the other TV stations stating it was not technically correct and would not playback on their machines.
My tape Operator told me to take a trip with him and we went to teh other station. He walked in sked if the tape loaded on their machine was running shortly, and was informed it didn’t go for almost a half hour.
He took it down, purt up his “Ampex” test tape and set up their machine, put our tape on it played it back showed the guys it played good, took it down, set the machine back to where they had it set. Loaded their tape back up and turned to them and said don’t ever send one of my tapes back saying it is no good.
As we were leaving they were going through their machine resetting it to proper standards.
No, some things never change. there is always gonna be someone that doesn;t wnat to accept your stuff. And yes BOB, if people will adhere to the standards for broadcast, they should have fewer problems.

Charlie

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Las Vegas, Nevada

[Charley King]

I have had very good results with PresenterSoft Power Video Maker. It gives you resolution choices, and choices of WMV, MPG, and AVI. The price is very good, and it is pretty fast.

Charlie

ProductionKing Video Services
Unmarked Door Productions
Flamingo Las Vegas Hotel
Las Vegas, Nevada

[Charley King]

Interesting, that is what I have. Do you actually have decklink listed in the external monitor options? Hmmm wonder if it has anything to do with the fact I actually have a three display system.

Charlie

ProductionKing Video Services
Unmarked Door Productions
Flamingo Las Vegas Hotel
Las Vegas, Nevada

[Charley King]

I use both. I have Premiere Pro 2 in my Creative Suite Premium and just purchased CS3. I tend to use Vegas more for actual editing, than I do Premiere Pro.
In my opinion, Vegas has the best MPG codec I hvae found, it is super clean compared to what I have received from anyone else’s compressions. I use DVD Architect to create video playboack loops because I find it to be easier and faster to work with.
Each of these items have their strengths and weaknesses, so I have migrated back and forth according to the project.

Charlie

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Unmarked Door Productions
Flamingo Las Vegas Hotel
Las Vegas, Nevada

[Charley King]

Well, probably not. I’m not located in the lobby. I’m hidden away on the second floor way back in the bowels of the building. But yep I am at the Flamingo, and the unmarked door actually is marked now with a sign that says “Unmarked”

Charlie

ProductionKing Video Services
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Las Vegas, Nevada

[Charley King]

I totally agree with you guys. I have always had a crt that would not filter anything so I could see what I really had without the corrections that many monitors do. Audio was always final mix down using small speakers known as near field speakers. So you gotta have near field video and a near field audio in order to see what that sweet little old Grand mother is going to be watching and hearing at home.
Wait, that sweet little old grand mother is my wife.

Charlie

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[Charley King]

I was never a fan of shakey cam. Grinner you brought back a memory talking aobut a 5 pound camera. I remember when VTE of Los Angeles got the Fernseh camera truck. We were used to running cameras from 100 pounds and over, the Fernsehs were about 35 pounds, so we would bring sand bags to tape over the camera to give them some weight so we could be smoother. Hmmmmm if shakey cam had been more prevelant then, we could have worked without the sand bags. But then Sports was not meant to be ultra shakey huh?

Back on topic, I never really follow trends except in my early days I loved the psychedelic effects with moving colors used in Chroma Keys.
My nickname back then was ChromaKing

Charlie King

ProductionKing Video Services
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Flamingo Las Vegas Hotel
Las Vegas, Nevada