[Carsten Orlt]

that is a good question! I assume you work in ntsc and because I’m in pal country I lag the experience for this TV format.
I would try to find the problem starting with the following:
I would look at to what the video sync on the Beta vtr is set to (menu): ref in or video in. It should be set to video in if you don’t have a ref signal.
Also I would try to remove the video in from the kona card as it might be trying to sync itself onto this signal if there is no ref signal present (this is a guess again as I don’t have a kona card, maybe there is a setting in the control panel for the kona?)
It will be a game of eliminating possible reasons.

[Carsten Orlt]

[JeremyG] “Yes you can run without it, but it makes every thing easier once it’s there.

With the low cost of the Gen10, it’s really a no brainer.”

Point taken and I agree 🙂

[Carsten Orlt]

I think you should seriously consider an anger management session.

and while your at it, take a course in video too 🙂

[Carsten Orlt]

the one thing you do NOT need is some smart looking answer which is incorrect.

I for instance run FCP with different video boards and BetaSP and DigiBeta without any BB generator for years. I know its impossible, but hey….

The only real situation you need a BB is when you connect more then 2 pieces of video equipment (e.g. old edit suit with vision mixer and 3+ VTR and bla bla). You can for instance feed the ref out of a PVW2800 into the ref in of the Kona or whatever board you have and this way sync the Kona to the recorder. So it all depends on your hardware.

[Carsten Orlt]

I only get crazy strobing when I switch off the -1 shift fields filter.
Though I can’t check on external monitor in the moment, only computer monitor.
don’t know why you’re having trouble?

[Carsten Orlt]

just a thought (and it might not help)
is the field dominace in the mixed timeline set to ‘none’? if yes could it be that therefor field order of source clips is ignored?
I just tried to drop a Pal dv clip into a pal 8 bit uncompressed timeline and the dv clip automatically received a shift -1 filed filter and plays fine.

[Carsten Orlt]

Thanks guys!

[Carsten Orlt]

ok I might be wrong but as far as i understand tv is always transmitted as an interlace signal.
so it always has 2 fields. first the odd lines are transmitted and then the even ones. this is definitely the case in pal sd format. I’m not sure it is the same in hd but i guess it is.

now you can shoot progressive which means that both fields are the same.
same for graphics. if you create a progressive animation you still have 2 fields, but both are the same.

your saying that one field is being dropped. if so your resolution would be halfed and you would see a noticable picture degradation. Is this the case?

the reason that you have a none/one/two field dominance option is only of concern when you have interlaced originated material as there can be then a motion difference between the 2 fields. if you reverse the field order you get a jerky motion because within a frame you show first the 2nd motion relative to the recording time (hope that makes sense)

so unless you see your picture loosing resolution after you drop it in the seq, it doesn’t matter if you only work progressive.

[Carsten Orlt]

could it be that you need to change the resize setting in the frame control tab in compressor to something better then the default in the preset your using?

i noticed a few times that the Apple presets always use the default settings and therefor the basic quality for resizing or fps changes, which is not good enough.

the reason it might work from fcp is that this way the resize is using the fcp engine?

[Carsten Orlt]

you worry about something you don’t need to worry about 🙂

a. when working progressive both fields are the same and which ever way you play it back the result is the same.

b. field order is only an issue when you transcode from a field 1 first codec to a field 2 first codec (eg PAL uncompressed to PAL DV) or vice versa. When you stay in one codec it doesn’t matter and you can safely leave the clips as they are imported. FCP will process clips according to the default field order. Unless you get clips which have non standard field order you don’t need to change anything.

c. if you want to change a setting for a bunch of shots, select them all in the browser and control click on the value of the coresponding column of the parameter you want to change. you’ll see that FCP will change them all at once.