Carlitos
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NOW, after this little experiment, I can positively say I was wrong:
The “Invisible Layer” is NOT 98.7% worthless.
It’s 100% worthless, at least as a new feature.
If you wanna upgrade to PPro 2.0, fine.
But don’t get fooled, don’t let this “Brochure-filler feature” affect your decision, it’s just an old, ordinary, stupid Alpha layer.
A titler layer without “titles”.
Nothing special, nothing to be taken seriously.
CASE CLOSED.
NEXT!!
P.S. Shame on You, Adobe!!!
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“Another old trick to generate an “invisible layer”: A title track with no titles on it.”
.- I just checked out that this old (OOOLD!!) trick it’s still working perfectly.
A Title layer with no “titles” is EXACTLY the same as the “Amazing” Invisible Video Layer, no differences at all.
Not the slightest difference. Just a stupid Alpha layer.
What a shame!!
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“In PremPro 1.5 I had an invisible layer in effect. I made it in AE from a Black layer with 0% opacity and rendered it out as a Lossless Alpha (avi). – 30 seconds Duration”
.-I also have a collection of Alpha layers, masks, blacks, Bars tones, etc. The only difference between the ones I have and the “invisible layer” feature is that you generate it within premiere instead of import it.
Another old trick to generate an “invisible layer”: A title track with no titles on it.
Big deal!!
I expected more from a new feature. The invisible layer is not even worthy to be called a “new feature”.
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Its original purpose was to carry any effects that would work with it eg a lens flare or a shape or especially DVdate. I used the Invisible avi on its own track and could turn it on and off at will while editing. It saved rendering time and meant I did not overload the clip with effects during the edit. I also found I could use it to copy the effects from it clip back to aanother clip(in the ECW window)when required at the end of the edit. I could also split screen with it and make quick RT adjustments. In fact it has uses I still not have discovered or utilised yet.
.-I alreay said it, is not 100% worthless, only 98.7%
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“I always find it interesting how spending mere hours with an application gives one complete insight over all existing workflows”
.- It’s only one (1) specific feature this thread is all about. I think this is pointed clearly enough.
I don’t know about any other feature or workflow I haven’ tried, and is not in the interest of this very thread, maybe another.
‘in every possible situation”
.- I tried THIS feature in every possible situation. It does almost nothing of any use.
And, worse, you have to render it, even without whatever you can put on it.
You don’t have to render Avid’s filler.
Is not only useless, you even have to render it.
“with a feature they’ve never seen before.”
.-Maybe you’ve never seen something like it but that’s not my case.
I’ve seen and used extensively this kinda feature.
Well, a working one and in other apps, of course.
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I’ve never had the opportunity to even consider the invisible clip feature’s potential uses yet
.- Imagine being able to apply an effect over a large number of clips (ie color correction) in just one step. Imagine to crop several clips at the same time. That’s what you can do with the Avid’s implementation of invisible layer (and you CAN’T with Adobe’s one). You can even put several effects on their “invisible layer” (It’s called FILLER)
“It does not have a lot of use for me, but it is 100% useful for what it does.”
.- Which is… …What????
– “ie it is useless at doing what it was not designed to do!”
.- What it was designed to do? I’m trying to find out, maybe you can tell me.
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“I agree that many users will not use it”
OK
Let’s tone it down:
Is 98.7% worthless.
I expected someting at least “close” than the implementation in Avid.
After 18 months, I expected more from the developers of After Effects.
It would have been a great, great feature, a big point ahead of Adobe’s competition.
It turned out to be a big dissapointment to add up.
Regards.
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“It does make a good placeholder”
.- A placeholder of what?
If I can’t put effects on it nor adjust nothing, what good is this for?
Video? Titles? Graphics? They don’t need a placeholder.
It’s a useless feature, my friend, don’t try to justify the unjustifiable.
The only thing it adds is a sad dissapointment. Premiere 2.0 would be better off without it.
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Hi steve
It’s useless then